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$800 million worth is giving a lot of value to something they can barely give away. Maybe $800K worth of material after the cost of dismantling.
They really should use the number of units. If Musk cranks the price from 80k to 120k, they suddenly have $1.2B sitting there? It’s the same 10,000 ugly-ass pieces of shit.
Strip out the bad stuff and drop them in the ocean and they can become reefs for fishies and their buddies?
Strip out the bad stuff
What’s left after that?
They have nice dashboards/screens right?
Not even the body shell is not any good?
If not for the battery with a disturbing history of exploding, it would be the vehicle’s worst feature.
A hole in the air.
“Zero Emissions” has never sounded so sinister.
So throw the windows in? The rest is rusty metal and plastics that become microplastics
I thought the body was made from stainless steel. Maybe that ruts in the ocean too?
No it’s a thin layer of steel hot glued to a plastic shell
But also salt eats everything
So the steel basically.
If nobody wants them… they are not worth that amount. simple economics.
supply and demand…
I know i would get made fun of for this but a good price is a good price. I would pay $15,000 for one. I think most people would.
Edit 2 min later - I thought better of it. No i still wouldn’t want it. I wouldn’t trust Tesla not to hack it at some point and take it over.
You could rip the batteries out of them and use them for a solar setup. The rest could be sold for scrap.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I’d love to take that as a project vehicle.
Batteries for home setup (on TOU plan, so it’d be nice to charge when rates are low and discharge when high).
Then slap an combustion engine in there that just acts as a power plant for the electric motors. It’d probably be biting off more than I can chew, but it sounds like a hell of a learning opportunity and tickles my engineering/tinker brain’s fancy.Of course, after blowing something up, I’d probably focus on dissecting the drive train and using them motors for something else. I’m suddenly curious what the suspension set up is like. If they’ve got some crazy high tech mag-ride system, I’ll bet that could be repurposed for another vehicle (pending Tesla proprietary protocols for connecting to ECU).
But now I’m rambling. The thoughts of what I could do with those parts though.
Ninjaedit: just took a look as some of the pondering above. I forgot how silly the interiors look, so def wouldn’t bother with attempting it as a project car.
I would pay $15,000 for one.
I would pay $15k for a better vehicle. I’m not getting in The Truck That Kills You Instantly.
I would totally take one for 15k (only if its used, never from tesla itself) take the batteries out, sell those and put the frame on a truck and drive it out to an event or protest and let people smash whats left. Let people rent a sledge hammer for a bit and vent, would be a fun and very public statement. Once thats done sell it as scrap. The batteries should alone should cover the next one.
Hah hah hah. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wonder if people don’t want the truck because of its design or the association with Elon more.
Those are 2 excellent reasons to hate it.
I actually really like the look of it. It’s so ugly.
Also paint. I hate seeing paint chips on my car. I know I can wrap but that’s an extra expense to eat.
I just can’t see myself buying a new Tesla due to the damage Elon has caused. It’s a shame because my current Tesla is a wonderful car, in my opinion.
I’m forced to say that some of the wraps and textures added to the vehicles do make them look cool again.
But I feel like that’s equivalent to saying “Once you drown the turd in whipped cream and cherries, it looks edible.” I mean, fuck, I suppose so. But I know what’s underneath so I’m not touching that spoon.
“$800m”… If nobody wants them, they’re not worth anything.
it cost them something to make…they arent completely valueless
cost != value
Angry Labour Value Fundamentalist Noises
Scrap metal. I’ll give them $100 if they run, $50 if I have to tow it.
If those 5 trucks had feelings they would be hurt
Certainly they mean MSRP.
But think of all the time that was spent to create them! /s
I think a few hours with a torch and they would make fantastic dumpsters. Imagine if you could crab walk a self moving dumpster? Genius
“nobody wants” or 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
Even if I could afford one, or want one, which I don’t for many reasons, the vehicle is so ginormous that it would be the biggest pain in the ass in the world to drive around my city. Parallel parking? Forget it. Narrow side streets that are the width of a car, but somehow you need to let someone come down directly towards you and it’s not a one way? Bumpy roads full of potholes or worn down to the original brick roads, with the vehicle that’s tires wear out faster than any other due to the sheer weight?
I think you get the idea
Seattle? Sounds like Seattle.
Pittsburgh PA
Both.
Why not both nobody wants them and 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
For all we know lots of people want them but can’t afford them.
Paints two completely different scenarios from the same objective base observation that there are X amount of unsold Cybertrucks.
Why is that all you know and why are you lumping us in with you?
They’ve got ~60% more inventory than sales (6k sold).
For comparison Rivian has 400% more sales than inventory. (14k sold).
This should be plenty of data to conclude how popular the Cybertruck actually is.
Are you comparing the same time frames? Because Rivian’s sales are down 36% for Q1 2025.
I guess no one wants them either, or would a headline about Rivian invoke some other reason?
That’s my point.
Rivian didn’t over produce, and notably, didn’t go all in with the new authoritarian regime. Also, a 36% decrease in sales is much less than having $800 million (in MSRP) sitting in lots. The R1T is a very successful vehicle if you compare it to the Swastitruck.
So like what, 20?
Can someone explain how the demographic of people who loved to park their gas guzzlers to purposefully block tesla charging stations are now Musk fanboys all of a sudden?
Have you seen what he posts on Twitter?
In fascism, there are no opinions. There is only loyalty to the one on top of the hierarchy. When they are told to hate EVs, they hate EVs. When they are told to love them the next day, they love them.
There is only one single core belief in fascism. There must be an “in” group that the state protects, and an “out” group that the state oppresses. There are zero other rules. This means that the definition of the in group is completely arbitrary and fluid based on what helps the strongman at the top. If you ever question the definition of the in group, you are automatically part of the out group.
Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
Cybertrucks are just sitting around, waiting for someone to officially label them the DeLorean of the 21st century.
Hey! You take that back! DeLoreans were always cool cars. Their demise wasn’t due to lack of popularity, the company just had problems getting established, and ultimately didn’t survive its initial growth phase.
Nobody despised the DeLorean, or it’s owner. They just ran out of money, and he tried a desperate Hail Mary play, that didn’t work.
Their demise wasn’t due to lack of popularity, the company just had problems getting established, and ultimately didn’t survive its initial growth phase.
Hm, I thought their demise was due to them arbitrarily going back in time.
FUCK I accidentally hit 88mph again. I’m going to be really early to dinner…
Yeah and at least they’re creator had a cool story.
Yeah, he was a larger than life character, and the end of the company was spectacular. Most companies end with a whimper, his ended with an explosion.
I have a little personal anecdote about the end of DeLorean Motor Cars. At the end, I was living in Cleveland, OH, where DeLorean’s brother had a Cadillac dealership, which also sold DeLoreans, of course.
When the company crashed, the government, or the bank, or the court, or somebody, was coming to take all the cars that were sitting in the factory parking lot in Detroit. The local news caught a helicopter shot of a long line of DeLoreans driving out of the lot, and down the road in a long line. They didn’t bother to follow them.
A few days later, it was reported that all the surplus DeLoreans were missing, and DeLorean was hiding them somewhere, and they showed the footage of the cars driving off.
A few days after that, I was taking one of my favorite shortcuts through Lakewood, the suburb where DeLorean Cadillac was located. My shortcut was a small road/alley, with far less traffic and lights, which went behind the businesses along the main road.
One of those businesses was DeLorean Cadillac, with a big parking lot behind the dealership. I’d passed that lot many times, and it was always a mix of Caddys and DeLoreans, but this time I saw that it was FULL of nothing but DeLoreans, packed in like sardines. I had no doubt that these were the missing DeLoreans that the authorities were searching for.
So, of course I notified the authorities where they could find the cars, right? Fuck NO. DeLorean didn’t seem like a bad guy, just a major dreamer who got desperate. I always kind of admired him. So I kept my mouth shut, and made the authorities find the cars without my help.
I’d fucking love to have a DeLorean; they’re bad cars but that’s where the similarities to the Cybertruck end. They’re just cool.
Their demise was absolutely due to lack of popularity. In December '81 they had produced 7,000 units and sold 3,000. I’d argue that they failed for the same reason Fiero did – they looked like a sports car but were not. Top speed was 110mph. 0-60 time was 10.5 seconds. It had a V-6 that put out 130hp in a car with a curb wt of 2700 lbs. 0-60 time was measured at 10.5 seconds. To put that in perspective, about the same as a 99 Ford F-350 Super Duty Crew Cab 4x4 Dually or 73 LTD Brougham. There are virtually no modern cars that run 0-60 that slow. A 2024 5.3l Suburban has a time of 7.0
In addition, they had numerous quality control problems. This in a car that retailed for $25k or the rough equivalent of $86,000 in today’s dollars. While it’s probably true that nobody despised the car, it was not a good car. They were definitely cool sitting in a parking lot but getting spanked by a 1980 Chevy Citation (0-60 10.3) is not a good look
The cybertruck is on a different scale of unpopularity.
Nobody threw Molotov cocktails at Delorians. (Edit: or even DeLoreans)
Not with that spelling.
Holy moly those specs are remarkably similar to my 1st generation Prius.
Now compare the gas mileage lol
Edit - Was actually curious:
Vehicle City Highway Combined DeLorean 17 23 19 Prius 42 41 42 I actually expected the DeLorean to be worse
Me too. That’s comparable to my dad’s old 4 cylinder Toyota Pickup (mid-80’s, so similar era). Smaller engine and wayyyy less power so I would’ve expected the pickup to get worse than the Delorean.
How dare you disparage the amazing Fiero!
I’m not saying you are wrong in anything you state, and you make good points.
And yes you are probably right that the shortcomings compared to what was promised is the main reason sales didn’t go as expected.
But I think you don’t see it the same way as barneypiccolo you responded to.
Wasn’t the DeLorean design pretty iconic from the beginning? The fact that there are still more than 2/3rds of the cars built on the road today 44 years later does speak volumes to its favor regarding popularity IMO. Those were not cars that were bought, found insufficient and then scrapped. But instead have been maintained despite DeLorean hasn’t been around to supply spare parts.
Also the fact that the car had such a central role in the Movie Back to the Future, because it was simply such a cool car despite it’s flaws, what other car could they have used for similar effect?
Imagine trying to do that with the Cybertruck! The Cinema would most like burst out in laughter from claiming doing anything with a Cybertruck would be to do it in “Style” as Emmet Brown expressed it regarding the DeLrean. It would clearly be seen as a fat joke on how stupid the car is and looks.
So no the car wasn’t popular enough in sales for the number of cars DeLorean built, but it was never an unpopular atrocity like the Cybertruck is.Edit PS:
they had produced 7,000 units and sold 3,000
That’s not true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMC_DeLoreantotal production reached an estimated 9,000 units
And allegedly they needed to sell about 2000 cars remaining to continue.
Fuck Tesla. No bailouts for Nazis.
Narrator: …
He’s right behind me isn’t he
They’re not worthless, im sure you can use them for scrap metal
I would love for Tesla to have its management evaluated and filtered for Nazis. Then, when an independent company has removed and listed those nazis out, then I could consider buying from them.
