I was in a fugue state drawing this. If it is in any way upsetting, I will delete it.

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    to be honest more common reason could be polyps though so dont go crazy the first time you see blood on your stool.

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      No, that’s lightly colored blood. Mostly on toilet paper. We’re looking for dark red blood here.

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        Yes and no. It just depends where along your GI tract the cancer is.

        If the cancer is further up in your colon, the bleeding can turn your poo a dark color. BUT if you have cancer near to the “exit hole” (in your rectum or anus), it absolutely can involve bright red bleeding.

        Also fun fact. Eating a metric fuckload of blueberries will also make your poo very dark lol. Found that out one day and I mildly scared the crap out of myself before remembering what I ate. Beets can also give you some fun colors.

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      SHHhh, they still should consult a doctor. Don’t give people an excuse to not seek medical help.

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        in most places you will first need to consult an intermediary person (like a GP or family doctor) who will tell you to wait and observe for a while anyways. it is not like you go to the hospital and they immediately test you. you need to bleed out of your anus for quite a while before they take you seriously…

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          I freaked out when I saw blood in the toilet after a shit. Went to see my doc. He looked at my butthole and said “it’s hemorrhoids, I can see them”.

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          Um … nope. I sent me to a gastroenterologist. We just talked, no physical exam. He immediately scheduled the butt probe. After that he sent me to the hemorrhoid guy who only saw me once, procedure on the first visit.

          I’ll add that every medical professional that I spoke to about bleeding out of my ass was understanding and concerned. At no point was I not taken seriously.

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          Sounds like 100% your location issue. In UK shit is taken seriously. Try different GP and report them if you can.

          I’m talking from experience too. If they’re not taking bleeding seriously, it’s fucked beyond belief.

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              Have not, was seen same day and examined within an hour… 2024 Feb is fairly old, wait times have been being cut.

              Just pointing it out as you’re just spreading misleading information. Yeah, it was bad and situations like that suck, but what are you achieving? Are you seriously trying to do what exactly?

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                One year is old wow? If you are 20 years old maybe but otherwise it means you have spent like 10+ years navigating the problems of this system and getting frustrated at every turn. One year of improvement does not undo all those years of hardships. I have had friends going back to their own countries for treatments because of these waiting times and sometimes because their problem was not taken seriously, my wife being one of them, a close friend of mine another. Calling a fair criticism of a system that has been horrible for the last two decades of someone’s attempt to “achieve something” and “spreading misinformation” sounds directly from the fascist’s handbook.

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                  I understand you’re angry. But you’re yourself and those around you no favors. Undoing “two decades” of damage to the system takes times, but talk like yours undos labour’s efforts and is exactly how reform will take charge.

                  Get over yourself and look at progress. Accusing someone of “learning how to navigate” and assuming my age is laughable. If anything, it shows your immaturity and lack of rationale. Whataboutism gets us nowhere. Nothing about your comments falls under fair criticism. It’s just ranting. Ranting manifests doubt. Doubt loses labour seat of power and puts reform in. Doesn’t take a crystal ball to see that.

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              You aren’t getting this. There’s a huge support community out there. People will get help if they reach out. And they should do so.

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    Funny story: once i took a shit that was eerily red and started to panic. I searched and searched for possible causes and then after getting up i noticed in my trash bin an emptied 100g pack of beetroot chips i ravaged in a weed-addled munchies frenzy, and facepalmed

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      My first three surgeries were for the removal of a pilonidal cyst. According to the doctor who operated in my tailbone, this and similar events are common causes of panic.

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        Don’t go look this up. You definitely don’t want to see the pics. No matter how curious. I warned you …

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          Sorry, it didn’t occur to me that that might be a problem. Yeah, cysts of any kind are pretty gross. Pilonidal cysts are near the butthole, so grossness is not reduced. Unless you have an interest in such things, I agree, don’t look them up.

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            It’s shitpost, my friend. And a shitpost where I also chose to reveal uncomfortable details. I’m just teasing.

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      I told this story on here way back when I first moved to Lemmy, but I went through a period of eating some sea salted beet chips (fucking delicious btw) for lunch every day. I didnt grow up eating beets, no idea why I tried them, but I didnt realize what was happening when I started pissing red.

      Got in with my PCM and was panicking like “I have blood in my urine and I’m not on my cycle, and it looks different anyway!”

      So he was like “Aight, what did you eat yesterday?”

      I felt like such a fucking idiot wasting his time. But a bunch of kind Lemmings on here assured me that it happens a LOT, and its always better to get checked.

      That being said, there should definitely be a warning on those chip bags for those of us who lack critical thinking skills lmao

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      I remember when once I ate a ton of red bell peppers and got jumpscared when my shit was red. I think the color was like this:

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    Important PSA. Colon cancer isn’t as deadly as other types and a lot of that is because of all the work that goes into early screening and detection. At the same time, it’s on the rise in younger people.

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      I had a very dear friend pass this year from Pancreatic cancer.

      The dogshit thing about Pancreatic cancer (aside from it being cancer) is you generally don’t feel unwell until you’re quite advanced with it / stage 4 (terminal). That is what happened in my friends case. They gave so much in their short life and had so much more to give.

      I’m sorry, I don’t think my comment was overtly substantial; I wanted to echo your point about how insidious cancer can be.

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        I’m so sorry for the loss of your friend. I have a close relative that was just diagnosed with pancreatic cancer AND my friend’s dad was diagnosed too. They both slowly were losing weight and were forced into the doctor.

        Anyone reading if you’re losing weight and not doing anything different go to the doctor!

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      I’m sure it’s all those lovely chemicals they put into food mixing and combining weird in your body, if you can create a new drug your body just by snorting cocaine and drinking alcohol I’m sure there’s much worse stuff we don’t even know about going on from all these weirdchemicals

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        Can’t blame the situation on “them”. When was the last time you personally cooked some spinach? Do you have wild rice in your kitchen? How about fresh or dried fruit? Nuts?

        If you cook for yourself and make good decisions about what you eat, you will immediately lose weight, your skin will clear, your guts will start working correctly … oh … and you no longer worry about what “they” are doing to your food.

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          That takes money, time, and mental energy. None of which are in high supply for most people working shift jobs or 8-5. The best personal solution is to make and freeze your meals on your off day so you can just heat them up whenever. The best systemic solution is to guillotine a capitalist for producing toxic food that masquerades as healthy and delicious, then ask the others if they have any questions about the new food regulations.

          This is far less of a problem in other countries. We don’t have to let corporations treat us as an exploitable resource.

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            The only bit of sense you made was mentioning meal prep. The time, money, and mental energy spent on your own health are rewards, not costs. Being responsible for your health can be difficult for Americans to fathom, but its cheap and easy.

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              It’s really not cheap. We have the studies about how it’s more expensive and about how food deserts exist. And time? Lmao. You get home from an 8-5 job at 6-7 depending on your commute. Which means you have 2-3 hours for relaxation, food, exercise, social activity, bills, and house chores before you have to go to sleep so you can get 8 hours.

              And expecting someone to work all day and still have abundant mental energy is just pure toxic positivity. That’s not the experience of most people. We also have historical studies showing we didn’t “work” as much in pre-industrial times and that with the rise of shift work comes the rise of prepared food as a calorie source.

              The answer here is plainly to regulate the prepared food, not blame people for their lack of a pocket universe operating on a different timescale.

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                How much do you think rice and beans actually cost? Good luck eating more than $10 worth in a month. Pork loin ($12) is super-cheap, slice and freeze, got food for a couple weeks. Bag of mini oranges is $4 and that’s desert for a week. Add a (freakin huge) bag of Popeye fresh spinach for $4. So far I’ve spent $30 and have enough food to feed myself and even guests. Dunno who these “most people” are. These studies you mention … and all this navel gazing … that’s not real.

                It can be hard to break out of the American processed food trap. Requires practice. Gotta do it in order to understand. Go buy some groceries and cook something.

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                  I meal prep, but i eat home cooked food every day. Anyway, since I gave up all the processed junk food, my acne is gone, I feel healthier, I AM healthier. I don’t work though, so I doubt I could work AND home cook meals.

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                  Pork loin is 7 dollars a pound. Ground beef is cheaper. Chicken or tofu are by far the cheapest proteins.

                  And I’m sorry but you cannot survive on spinach, oranges, pork, rice, and beans. Not to mention that rice is a 20 minute cook and dried beans take literal hours.

                  You can’t just say something is cheap when the knock is time, money, and mental energy. You sound like those yuppis born into money, just telling people to buy a house to get on the financial freedom train.

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    I found it really hard to talk about and seek treatment for this subject at the time, and I was quite aware of how sick I might be. Maybe this will help somebody. I’ve had the butt-probe three times now, and the good doctor expects me again next year. I’m totally cured. No blood no more. Let me share …

    The critical danger is polyps that grow on the lining of your intestine. They go bad and turn into cancer. Doc wants to snip them off for you. If you are 50 years old, go do that.

    The home test … If it finds any blood at all, you’ll fail the test and have to do the colonoscopy. If you’re approaching 50, you have polyps, they are bleeding, and its gonna find blood. You can waste your time with the home test or just go get checked.

    Most folks with red blood in stool probably have internal hemorrhoids. Lots of things can cause them to flare up, including drinking alcohol, spicy greasy food, and anything else that irritates your gut. This is the best-case scenario. Internal roids are fixable with a (very uncomfortable) outpatient surgery.

    The are obviously (MANY) other conditions that can go wrong there (external roids, lobsters up your butt, all sorts of stuff can happen), but these are the big things the doc says when you first talk. Roids and dangling cancer worms. Doc needs to take a look and tell you.

    And then the cure … oh ya, got the butt probe, got the roids … um … “pinned”. That lessened the bleeding but didn’t fix anything. Turns out my problem was a gut microbe imbalance, most likely brought on by some large doses of antibiotics I had to take for dental surgeries. Some righteous kimchi straight from a backyard in Korea cured me. That and a whole lot of fiber. All the time. Real fiber. Beans. Spinach. Black rice. Gotta feed them gut bugs. Or they will eat you instead.

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      It also really depends where the tumor is located. If its higher up in the colon, then the blood will be darker. But if it’s more to towards the end or the sigmoid it can still be red.

      I have IBD and it’s located in the sigmoid. My stool can be pretty damn red sometimes

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      Any chance you know what it means when the blood is sporadic in timing and volume, and has no discernable cause, but is also red.

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          Internal hemorrhoids make sense, although nothing seems to trigger it and I don’t feel any pain. Most of the time I don’t even realize until I look in the toilet. It happens so randomly. The doctors initially thought it was bacterial ulcers because they didn’t feel anything during the examinations. I’ve never had a colonoscopy only rectal examinations.

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        Dunno, not really a doctor. Some medications can cause bloody stools and there’s also internal hemorrhoids, which don’t hurt but can cause bleeding. It can be a lot of things!

        Recurring bleeding is still cause for seeing a doctor regardless of what it is, though.

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          I’ve been going to doctors for it since I was like 16. No one’s been able to pinpoint the cause yet, but thank you for your insight!

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    D’awwwwww i just had a colonoscopy today. 2 likely benign polyps. I’ll know in a week. I then proceeded to eat all the things.

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      Yeah I thought the low residue diet and no eating anything for a day before the procedure was more annoying than the colonoscopy itself.

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        Oh, the prep is by far the worst part. Well … after you get over having to tell the doc that you’re bleeding out your ass. That can be a challenge. But the prep … sitting on the pot with projectile diarrhea while you drink that chemical lemonade for 12 hours is not a good time.