opposition? in THIS democratic party?
Uh, I missed this one. Someone got the backstory?
… oh. It begins then. Thank you for the multiple links!
They are sending migrants to Guantanamo bay because Mexico didn’t want them.
I’m sure all we need is enough class consciousness and gumption so our direct action can stop the fascist regime from implementing imperialism.
The same thing we did about Manzanar.
no, i’m not the government.
American here:
I would like for the civilized world to do a full trade embargo on the US. I want the economy to nosedive so hard that either the GOP votes to remove the motherfucker from office, or get crushed in the biggest electoral landslide in history in 2026.
the unfortunate thing here, is that the US and the USD is so integral to global trade, that we would probably experience a global economic downturn similar to that of the great depression.
That’s happening either way, my dude.
depends on how stupid the admin is. It shouldn’t happen. But we’re moving a lot further towards it.
They’re a perfect mix of people that are stupid, evil, and greedy that will absolutely devastate the global economy.
yes but i’m hoping that someone will knock some sense into them, somewhere along the line, ruining an economy is a good way to get yourself killed, as the leader of a country.
The only problem with accelerationism, is that sometimes it accelerates in a direction we didn’t expect or want.
It’s very possible that whatever terrible consequences befall our political body have been planned well in advance by people smarter than us, or those in the cameras, and this whole thing is the groundwork for actually seizing and abolishing democracy.
Best case, we depose a wanna-be despot because things go to shit.
More likely case: we get both concentration camps AND a dictator.
It’s very possible that whatever terrible consequences befall our political body have been planned well in advance by people smarter than us, or those in the cameras, and this whole thing is the groundwork for actually seizing and abolishing democracy.
grade A cope
this is some sector C level copium right here
I don’t think you know what that word means, but it’s okay, even if you’re illiterate that just puts you in the lower 25-fucking-percentile in the nation.
that’s unfortunate for you, since i am probably more educated than half the people on this site.
Including you, call me when the NWO doesn’t take over the government and the US just collapses (or doesn’t, which is much more likely)
I genuinely have no idea what you’re babbling about mister “I’m smarter than half the people here” big shot super important dude.
It’s wild how the people who are most eager to profess their own intellect are always the ones who can’t communicate worth shit and are completely ruled by reactionary responses and surging emotions. Again, it’s ok. You fit right in with most American median voters. Pull up a chair and take a number. All the numbers are #1 so you feel important and special just like everyone else.
I genuinely have no idea what you’re babbling about mister “I’m smarter than half the people here” big shot super important dude.
i know, unfortunate that the illiterate retard (me) on the site is smarter than like 50% of the user base, truly some trying times we live in.
It’s wild how the people who are most eager to profess their own intellect are always the ones who can’t communicate worth shit and are completely ruled by reactionary responses and surging emotions.
i’m so mad rn lil bro, you couldn’t even perceive how angry i am right now, no cap, fr fr.
Again, it’s ok. You fit right in with most American median voters.
the american median voter has an overwhelmingly overlap with people being ok with donald trump. So.
Pull up a chair and take a number. All the numbers are #1 so you feel important and special just like everyone else.
so true, we stopped past that number, just didn’t need anything else, binary ftw.
As a Canadian, it really really sucks that we have to hurt our friends to help them, or you’ll hurt us all worse. It really sucks that you, personally, had to say those things too, but it’s also brave, and makes me hopeful that we can get through this.
Another Canadian with the same sentiment.
I feel like the sane world needs to make a global Alliance where if America tarriffs any country in the membership, everyone else responds with similar tarriffs.
America needs to learn that it isn’t alone in the world and it can’t survive in its current state without friends.
Poor Columbia having to give in to America’s demands over coffee, if they had an alliance with other countries maybe they could have said fuck you Trump.
German here, I stand with the same statement the from the guy above me that referred to the guy more above.
Anyways - In the first tariff “war” trump unleashed in after 2016 we tried to tariff stuff from the US, but since we don’t import a lot of things from the US, we only had tariffs on Whisky and Jeans (I’m not even joking, this happened).
That is probably the most effective thing that could happen. But if they won’t do it to Israel for committing genocide then I doubt they’d do it for it’s political doppelgänger.
I think it’s more likely they’ll go after us than go after Israel, because the world doesn’t have centuries or millenia of anti American bigotry stored up that in a twisted fashion leads them to let the Israeli government do whatever it wants to poor Muslims as long as that means there’s a Jewish state.
What complicates matters is all the military power we have and the certainty most people have that Trump would order it to attack anyone who embargoes us.
The world has that option. Come to think of it, it’s pretty pitiful they haven’t the humanity to stand up to this monster looming across the sea.
I’m almost as disappointed in the rest of the world not standing up to the USA as I am disappointed in my fellow citizens’ abdication of social and civic responsibility, common decency, and basic humanity.
Translation: I don’t want to to go or of my comfort zone and actually do anything. I just want those other people across the world to fix it for me.
I am asking for help because I can’tfix this on my own. It’s okay to do that.
Just go out there and protest man. You can do it. Organize and all that. But some shotguns or whatever.
Spoken like someone who’s been to countless protests and organized community events. Countless.
I have over 50 guns. I’m good there.
Nice try, FBI
No one in the government is going to do anything about it. They’ll argue about it, but nothing will be done. They all bow and lick the boot of a fucking clown. Trump, with a lot of help from billionaires and the media, lied and manipulated his way into power, but he’s just a mouthpiece and easily manipulated himself. He’s not smart enough to come up with any of this. The fact that 33%+ of the country’s population thinks he’s a genius is sickening.
Immigration is the horror show they’re going to use as a distraction while they pass Christofascist laws, all while Trump and his new billionaire buddies loot the country. I would suggest everyone actually read Project 2025 and see what their future plans are.
Most power is freely given in authoritarian regimes. We should fight back, not give up hope. We should call and write our representatives in congress.
This was a law that went throught congress first. 12 democrats voted for it. Those Democrats we should be flooded with our thoughts and feelings on the issue.
Republicans as well. I’d like to believe there are a few left who don’t agree with what’s going on, but are too spineless to do anything about it. Maybe guilt and pressure can make them fight next time.
We should fight too and nail with everything we have. We haven’t totally lost our democracy until they shred the constitution and write a new one, or pack it with amendments.
Seriously. Americans act like scared puppies, barking but backing down when facing an inbred orange pomeranian.
The people have the power. Organize statewide protests, block roads, and mobilize the working class to stand against fascism. Be more like the French citoyens.
Stop waiting for someone else to save your asses. This is 2016 all over again, when you pinned your hopes on Mueller or some other investigator. No one is coming.
Stop whining. Take action. Fight fascism.
Every member of the military needs to be reminded that they are obligated to disobey illegal orders. They can be criminally charged for obeying an unlawful order.
Every member of the military needs to be reminded that the Posse Comitatus act prohibits the military from engaging in domestic law enforcement activities.
And every member of the military needs to be reminded that immigration is a law enforcement issue, not a military issue.
They will just remind them that trump is immune and he will pardon loyalists.
One final reminder to every military officer: The statute of limitations on these crimes extends well beyond Trump’s term. They can be prosecuted under the next president.
Not if trump blanket pardons. Say they move to impeach trump, he leverages the pardon to have those who would otherwise be court-martialled murder the legislator.
Trump’s power to pardon extends only to federal prosecution. Not state.
Which state jurisdiction is Cuba under?
The crime would be kidnapping, and it could be charged under the laws of any state they pass through on the way to Cuba.
Law enforcement is permitted to transport prisoners within the custody of the justice department, but the military has no state-level authority to do the same. Military members can be charged with state crimes if they do this.
I invite you to imagine a state or local prosecutor indicting a member of the armed forces for carrying out an order given by a superior.
I certainly am not the one to parse what state crime would be leveraged but while its maybe true they could get him on something I’d need some more clarification before I outright agree.
Not him. He’s immune, either as a matter of law, or because we are collectively too chickenshit to tell him no.
But I’m talking about the officers carrying out his unlawful orders.
“Just following orders” is not an excuse nor a pardon: military members can be criminally convicted for following an unlawful order. They just need to know what kind of order is illegal for them to follow.
Even in that case I’m not really sure. The most i know is military are tried by military courts which, I believe, aren’t really state or federal.
That’s what yes-men are for – to work around such pesky limitations on power.
Nice try FBI guy.
You caught me, I am a Fat Balding Italian. At least partially Italian.
I’m not Italian, but I am a Fat Balding Idiot so we’re all good.
I’m not Italian or Balding, but I’m super fat.
Fbi is watching
Anything new good on netflix?
Maybe we can start by looking at all the corporations who are most supporting him, and push hard for boycotts. It might be slightly indirect, but corporate partners do seem to have the most influence on policy decisions. Maybe we could make a document in the style of the PrivacyGuides project to help people choose alternatives to fascist supporters.
I’ve seen posts on Mastodon calling for the general strike as well.
General strike is the way to go. It’s like peaceful protesting but it’s devastating to the thing they care about most. Older gen are mostly trumpets so they also get hit when their generational wealth drys up and they get to be the ones worrying about making rent.
I’ve been saying it but most people are hard programed not to question anything and never stick their neck out. I would have hoped concentration camps would be a line in the sand but just look, all over the this post people are obsfucating who is responsible. They think it’s important to assign blame to democrats, an almost irrelevant factor, after they proved they can no longer win elections at a national level.
Anyway, I’ll be there with you when the strike hits. By that I mean the strike of the billy club as they throw me in a patty wagon for dissent.
General strike is the way to go.
While you’re right that this is what will change course for the nation, not many people get is exactly WHAT a “general strike” really is.
There is no possible way we can get enough people on board with toppling the current administration that they will shut down basically the whole world. A general strike shuts down everything and I mean EVERYTHING. The amount of economic damage an event like this could do is astronomical, factories will burn, shipping lanes will choke, services will go out.
Ideally it would only last a couple days, but a general strike is basically a military action by a nation’s citizens, an organized resistance that crushes a country’s entire function. When the wealthy suddenly stop making money, it can permanently ruin them because of the way capital is tied through everything. They really, really don’t want to see even less-general strikes, and will do everything imaginable to prevent it from happening.
It’s a Paddy wagon. Because it was full of Irishmen.
I made a community for it.
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Did we stop them from building the internment camps at the border in his last term?
call these camps or detention centers whatever you want. It is the wrong language. These places are not owned and ran by the US gov. They are owned and ran by mostly 2 companies. Geogroup, and core civic. I encourage everyone to learn this, and to relay it. Instead of getting rid of these compounds, we need to get rid of these companies who have turned our justice department into a for profit billion $$$ industry. These companies are publicly traded. Cops and teachers have their pensions invested in them. YOU could have investments in them and not even know it. Esp if you work for the government
I feel like “It’s not a concentration camp! it’s a for profit concentration camp!” isn’t the great rebuttal you think it is.
It is important to understand we are being attacked by capitalism. Our freedom is a publicly traded product. It is not just Trump dictating orders. Capitalists make money by taking away our liberties because that is how the system functions. And it is global. Anyone can invest in these companies and give them a stronger platform to remove our freedom.
And this is where lemmy needs some mastodon features for boost and repost
Did we stop the Biden administration from using them once Trump built them? No, no we did not.
Biden made a gesture, but it was feckless and performative. He EO’d not renewing DOJ contracts with geogroup and core civic, but the current contracts stayed in place and were years from expiration. And, it was just DOJ which does not include ICE. Geo and core run the majority of these detention compounds on the border. They have been buying political influence with the money they get from government contracts. Of course Trump is all in for it. They have been lining his pockets for a long time. The more people locked up, the more money they make. And by “they” I am referring to shareholders, which consist of cops and teachers and other municipal workers who have their pensions invested in geo and core. Capitalism has started to eat its own tail.
Okay now that we agree concentration camps bad, what is your opionion on trump making new ones?
Also bad I expect these to rapidly go from detention camps to work camps.
FoxCon 2: Nacho Boogaloo
Yeah, never mind, you know Trump built them. No bid deal great guy.
Does your arm get tired with all those straight elbow salutes or do you get used to it? How hard is it to learn that craze walk you guys do?
Are you accusing me if supporting Nazism because I have an issue with the government using concentration camps?
Do you think you have a moral high ground when you suggest that it is ok for one party to use these camps?
I believe we shouldn’t he deporting undocumented people who haven’t violated serious laws. Do you think differently?
He’s still stuck in 2014 and thinks screaming Nazi at everyone who disagrees with him is going to change people’s minds.
People like that are just using the performative righteousness as an excuse to bully people.
People like that are just using the performative righteousness as an excuse to bully people.
Don’t disagree about the performative righteousness (also appreciate the new term) - but the current admin, many of its figureheads and an alarming number of its supporters sure fetishize the Third Reich. Not really something to be ignored, imo.
Completely agree. We all must take action, but here isn’t a great place to discuss it.
Nah, it’s because I looked at your post history.
Which is filled with antifascism. On the ither hand you are claiming it is ok for one side to use camps. That’s weird.
Think the only ways to stop this is passing a bill prohibiting using money on GITMO like the Republicans did with the prohibition of spending money to close GITMO.
Or lawsuits.
Or the people take a stand.
Everyone who was supposed to prevent this and had the power to do so either tried and failed or didn’t bother.
Right now the objective is “Survive”, the bad guys have already won.
Yep.
Yes, I already did, even before this particular news broke out…
I tried to individually tell every one I know IRL (which is not too many ppl sadly), basically told every single one of them to consider back-up career options… There are a couple of 1-year exchange students from Europe in my floor and I have not-subtly hinted at them to make contingency plans for PhD training back home. I’ve been following the news very carefully recently so I can share relevant items as soon as possible… The people need to know. I’ve even considered making know-your-rights printouts before they claimed they’re doing an ICE raid in Chicago, but realized how little resources I have for that… I absolutely will do something. Not sure what it is but I can’t see society go this way.
I just feel bad that as a non-US citizen there is only so little I can do… I don’t even know if I could join a protest without being considered for deportation at this rate. Am planning my leave as well so there’s that.
Funny incident, I blurted out to my family 2-months ago that Trump will probably build a concentration camp and was told to shut the F up… Murphy’s law I suppose
