This isn’t a show of force, it’s a demonstration for Canada who is planning to buy a number of these submarines from France.
You’re right, thanks for adding context. I’m immediately suspicious when a picture is posted with no accompanying news article, and my search wasn’t turning up any articles, only social media links.
Australia watching on with regret.
Morrison is such a dickhead.
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I dunno … Dutton seems smarter, but more evil. Morrison just seems like a brainwashed idiot who’s failed upwards. I don’t know how anyone looks at the screaming void of evil that is Dutton and thinks “yeah that thing has my best interests at heart … or a heart”
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I’m still not entirely sure how Australia seemingly wound up with a modified Westminster system that was worse than the original, genuinely pretty impressive.
The only reason it’s worse is because we have a strong Murdoch media bias, so the general public are pretty ill-informed. With everyone being fed bullshit so often it’s easy to get them to vote against their best interests.
Arguably at least we have proportional representation. FPTP sucks.
at least we have proportional representation
Only in the Senate. And only on a per-state basis, so it’s only as proportional as “a proportion of 6” can be…which is much less proportional than a proportion of 40, like if the Senate were done nationally.
We knew that BEFORE the election and yet elected the LNP anyway, fuck voters.
Could be worse, you could be a murican ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ
right?! gawwwwwwd we’re so fucking captured
Regardless, it’s presence makes a statement that Canada is not alone.
Though I’d be cool if it was stationed at Miquelon for a few months.
Yes, this old news is about a nuclear-powered attack submarine, not necessarily a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
IIRC only 2 out of the 9 french subs in service exclusively carry torpedoes and anti-ship missiles (Rubis class). I’m sure the 3 Suffren class with no second strike capabilities could still deliver some sort of short ranged tac nuke. So there are high chances that this is a submarine that can nuclear-attack.
They don’t need attack subs. They need boomer subs. At this point, Canada needs a nuclear deterrent. And I say that as an American who would be in the cross hairs of said nuclear deterrent. Canada should contract with the French for protection under their umbrella until they can build some of their own. The lesson of Ukraine should be that nukes protect small nations from fascist larger ones. Canada could easily end up like Ukraine. It’s not like fascists can’t find a casus belli. Putin was “restoring Russian glory” or some such. Trump would be “finishing the American Revolution” or some other bullshit.
Please, Canada, from a friend of yours to the south, do not take this threat lightly. No one is going to be able to save you if the US decides to invade. The same oceans that protect you will prevent your rescue. The only hope Canada will ever have of being able to militarily protect its borders from the US is a credible nuclear deterrent.
Just please, don’t harden your hearts while you build these weapons of destruction. Don’t close your doors to refugees from the US. As someone who is on the regime’s enemies list, hopping across the Canadian border and begging for asylum is the last chance I might have if things really go bad.
Lamp Oil, Rope, Nuclear Subs? You want it? It’s yours, my friend. As looong as you have enough Euros.
Khajit has wares, if you have coin.
I mean, they’re not mutually exclusive. Nobody was about to start openly threatening the Americans, but having French forces around and mulling over defence deals with France sends a signal.
We don’t know what Macron and Trudeau talked about, but accelerating things like this in light of the new reality could well have been part of it.
Also a great and well deserved middle finger to Australia
What’s the point of these submarines if there aren’t nukes on them?
There’s a dismantled trebuchet on board.
to demonstrate (politely) how quickly and quietly they can appear when we need them to. without endangering anyone or raising alarms that allow trump and co to rattle their sabers
To shoot at the ones with nukes on them?
I guess they could use them as a regular strategic missile platform.
Fake
France manages to get a sub to us before the UK even deigns to comment. That says it all. Merci beacoup!
Well done on falling for the propaganda
Propaganda to do better for our country is needed at this point. Trade wars are a’comin, best to have a large movement to weather the storm.
And unfortunately might only be a few winners, https://youtu.be/oYUI4hu950w
You are an idiot. The sub was scheduled for a visit,months in the making. There was no show of ‘force’. Maybe take your feet out of your mouth.
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Bonjour!
Hijacking the top comment to let people know this isn’t in response to any American threats, this is Naval Group, a French naval defense company, showing off their submarine because Canada is looking to spend 60 billion on twelve submarines. The plans for this purchase were publicly announced on July 10, 2024.
Here’s a French news article about the submarine, seeing as I couldn’t seem to find any sources in English.
I’ll take both reasons as canon, thank you very much
I’ll take both reasons as cannon, thank you very much
FTFY
without cannons, how will they fight?!?
Naval Group, a French naval defense company
Ah shit, that’s the same company Australia had a deal with to buy diesel subs, before our fuckwit former PM reneged on the deal to create AUKUS and buy American nuclear subs.
Weird that they specify “conventionally powered” in the Canadian article since this is a nuclear powered sub.
I’m pretty sure that’s a Suffren class, and there’s both diesel and nuclear powered versions. Dunno how I’d tell from the outside, and don’t think the caption is necessarily all that trustworthy.
Ah, that makes sense. It’s like when the car dealer shows you the version of the car you want with slightly different features since the one you want isn’t on the lot yet.
I think it’s because many nations with subs have nuclear-powered vs diesel-powered. Diesel doesn’t have the vast capabilities to stay underwater for months like nuclear does.
I don’t know if that’s a mistake. It might not be a nuclear sub, just a sub which has nuclear weapons capabilities ( though obviously not this particular sub because it’s still in the hands of a defence contractor ( I hope ) ).
That’s an attack sub (for attacking ships/other boats), not a boomer (which have nukes).
I had real good tingle feels imagining France showing up on our coast during this part of history.
A real “we got you bro” moment in my imagination.Le sad.
Hijacking your commet to add this
I don’t know much about this stuff, but I have been listening to a ton of podcasts about the war, geopoliticks etc.
From what I learned, France and the UK have nukes, but not the type you can launch from a submarine. (Unfortunately)
JT was just in France as one of his last acts as PM. Mere days later this bad boy shows up in a Halifax harbour. 🤔🤔🤔 Merci a la belle France 🇫🇷🤝🇨🇦
Vive la France!
Jemepelle
Could have imagined this happening as little as 3 years ago.
An ally sending a nuclear deterrent into our waters as a message/warning to the US. This normally happens to countries like Iran or North Korea
Hey. Guess what? At the moment, we’re the bad guys…
At the moment? When was there ever a time the US weren’t the bad guys?
Briefly the us was the good guys when we killed a bunch of slavers and then when we killed a bunch of fascists. Those were exceptions to the rule though.
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They also killed the Nazis, except for the ones that were useful, of course.
They were clearly talking about the Union during the Civil War…
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What’s the relevance of the founding fathers, then?
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I kinda root for them in the war of independence
Yup
To be accurate, this is a nuclear propelled attack submarine. It does not carry nuclear warheads and is not what we normally call a “nuclear deterrent”.
It does not but can carry nuke tipped missiles and even though we have the screw signatures of our allies…this is still a message that the rest of the world except Moscow is looking down on us in disappointment
I believe you, but do you have a source? That’s a pretty big distinction when *they’re calling it a “nuclear attack submarine”!
EDIT: Clarification
I used to look for submarines for a living. But you don’t have to believe me:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_submarine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_submarine
Thanks for the info. I’m curious if you have more details on what that job was (if you’re able to share)! Why did you move on from it?
My current job is to operate electronic sensors on board of an aircraft. I used to work with anti-submarine helicopters. The kind of helicopters that usually operate from a military ship. Now I’ve been moved to work on a search and rescue aircraft. It’s a nice change to be looking for people who actually want to be found.
That’s cool…
Still hasn’t happened. This was a sales pitch for a Canadian defence contract.
nuclear subs always give me gundam carrier ship vibes
Would a french submarine wear its hat like this:
or like this:
Asking the real questions
The top one looks like he got hit on the head.
Holy shit I laughed out loud…
This deserves its own post in [email protected].
Let’s go! France is here to protect Canada!
Na, they’re just finishing the 7years war-round 2
Idk about that. Other commenters have better explanations that aren’t sensational.
Never have I been more pleased to see a foreign navies nuclear attack sub in my nations waters.
(odd times)
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perchance, banana for scale?
It’s a football field, Micheal. How big could it be, a banana?
It’s there, but hard to see.
Whollottabanana!
The previously-mentioned French article says it’s a Barracuda, but I don’t know if that’s a model or a class.
And unsurprisingly, he also decided to offer the Royal Canadian Navy its “premium” model, the Barracuda, rather than the Scorpène.
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Canadian football fields are 100m, so just the right size for us!
CFL fields are 110 yards, which is about 100m. Close enough I guess :)
“Bring it” - France probably
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But I’m le tired…
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Important note: The “Nuclear” in “Nuclear attack submarine” means that it is powered by a nuclear reactor. It does not refer to its armament. An “attack” submarine means it is designed to attack ships and other submarines and these are typically not capable of carrying and launching ICBMs. Nuclear-armed deterrent submarines are called Ballistic Missile Submarines.
Don’t forget all the cruise missiles - it’s not just for attacking things at sea.
Don’t tease me!
NOBODY backs an American Revolution like the French!
🇫🇷🦅🎆
Fake
Fuck yeah.
Finally. Letting the French keep a little bit of Canada pays off.
Pointing “am I a joke to you?”
