• Freshparsnip@lemm.ee
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    9 hours ago

    The best example of an asshole atheist they could find was one making a shitty anti-theist meme, meanwhile the examples of asshole Christians and Muslims are violent

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      well you can find them on social media hating on women instead. a lot of early atheist youtubers went on to become gamergaters.

      or look at a popular one like Dawkins who is busy being a transphobe nowadays. imagine being an atheist and wasting the remainder of your precious and only life trying to make the precious and only life of the most marginalized people in society even worse.

      or sam harris who literally defended torture.

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          each of them doing what they’re capable of. the kkk used to have a lot of power. dawkins is just a misogynistic, transphobic nerd. it’s all circumstance. full time hating can lead to a lot of places. for bitches like him it’s mostly trying to get others to do the dirty work.

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      CCP and USSR stamped out religious practice, but go off.

      As an Atheist myself, don’t delude yourself into thinking religion is unique in its capacity for horrors. Humans have that capacity, any group we make would also have that capacity.

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        I was commenting on the examples the meme chose to use. It implies they couldn’t find examples of violent atheists

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          And by implication pointed out the difficulty in finding one. Unless you literally made a statement about just the types of images they chose with no further intellectual depth, which I mean is possible (I do that shit all the time), it comes with the assumed next statement about there not being violent atheists, or at least there are less violent atheists. So I was talking to that point.

          That being said, I’m autistic so I might just missing the point, but I figured that my statement should still be made in case others thought like I did initially. There have been atrocities committed by atheists and there are violent atheists.

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      There are a lot of edgy athiests using all their time attacking trans people these days, because an unfortunate number of them are mainly athiests as a way to hate Muslims. And the ones taking the time to attack trans people have almost all joined the alt right, which has been responsible for a lot of attacks on innocent people.

      They may not be killing in the name of atheism, but they have been in the same of “reason” and “defence of women”.

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        Maybe I’m sheltered but I don’t know of a single atheist attacking trans people. I’m not saying there aren’t any because anyone can be an asshole but I’m not sure if it’s a lot.

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        I haven’t seen that. Why would they need to be atheist to hate Muslims? You can do that from anywhere.

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          You can really change that to “should” instead of “can”.

          They literally defend a pedo prophet. I don’t know how exactly they justify that, but I don’t really care. I will actively hate them for this one detail and feel pretty fucking justified.

          When you actively go out of your way to be terrible, you intentionally choose to be considered low class until you wake up and choose a decent path.

          Just be decent. That’s not a high bar to clear. Muslims and Christians fail this test. Probably a lot of others, but staying on topic of the post context here.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    • actually dangerous white supremacist

    • guy in a ninja costume with a knife

    • weird meme

    • completely made up stereotype

    1/4: do better next time!

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      Misandrists exist, but most are harmless. Social media just does a good job of amplifying them like all outrage.

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    The bottom-left one for Feminists doesn’t fit. The others are things that were created by their own group, for example, the KKK was created by Christians. That Feminist meme, on the other hand, wasn’t created by feminists but by someone else to mock them.

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      And the “keep calm and hate god” was clearly created by a theist, not an atheist

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        Good point. Why would an atheist hate something which doesn’t exist. The whole meme is bad.

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          Many atheists “hate god” as in hate the idea of a god. I can see atheist making that as a meme and I know some edgy atheists post that kind of shit all the time, which tbh is corny as hell.

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        Yeah, I could see it being from an antitheist if it was more along of the lines of “fuck all gods” or something along those lines. That’s operating under the assumption that all antitheists are atheists, which may not be true.

        … Someone who is a theistic antitheist sounds like an interesting person.

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          allow me to introduce you to misotheism. my favourite take is that of famed mathematician Paul Erdös, who referred to god as the ‘SF’, which stood for ‘supreme fascist’, who he said horded all the best mathematical proofs for himself.

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      The number of assholes calling themselves feminists vastly outnumber the actual feminists. They have lost control of the word.

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    American war propaganda poster for illustrating feminism, that’s certainly a choice

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      Yeah and “we can do it,” until the men come back home and take the jobs back.

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        Reminds me a of a joke "Why do people in North Dakota spend so much time at the bar?

        Because Colonel Custer told them to hang out there until he got back."

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          Equality achieved in mid 90s. (adjusting for voluntary life choices of parenting full time) Much more men than women dropped out of labour force since.

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            Well, technically, it was never equal numbers and the gap between has remained the same, but you could argue that maternity and also elderly gender disparity contribute to that, yeah.

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        How many men died over there though. Those jobs became vacant

        Honestly your comment triggers the fuck out of me. Are you saying women had it worse in ww2? lol should men returning from war not be entitled to their job back?

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          To explain your downvotes.

          Women were encouraged to join the work force on top of all of the parenting/wifely duties they were saddled with for generations. This was a lot of work, but it also provided a glimpse into financial independence and equal placement in the workplace for the first time.

          But when the war was over, women were encouraged to jump right back into the kitchen.

          should men returning from war not be entitled to their job back

          There are many jobs that need to be done to make society work. There are plenty of jobs at home that they could have taken.

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            I feel as if that’s kind of fair given that the men were the ones who had to die without any choice in the matter, no?

            Also I didn’t know I was downvoted as I have that turned off lol

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Bill#Problems

              Except a lot of men who fought over there were rewarded with returning back to the bottom rung of the socioeconomic ladder.

              Status quo was maintained. Women and people of color were promised opportunity and reward for helping with the war effort, but largely didn’t get it.

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    Terrible implementation of a decent idea, try again

    There are in fact assholes of every stripe and it is good to be aware of those within your own “camps”

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    Represent those you want to support with the best examples and those you want to oppose with the worst examples. Ignore that every group is made of people and people come in many distinct, unique varieties because it doesn’t fit your narrative.

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      No, it’s saying Nye is a good person. He’s an atheist and not an asshole.

      But you do touch on something because it would be a challenge to find someone known for being atheist while also being a decent human being. IDK, maybe Daniel Dennitt?

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          Lol, and here I was imagining the average lemming as a mid 30s-40s dude with a linux thinkpad and a preference for femboys with long socks.

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            Before the reddit exodus, that was probably true. Now it is very obviously full of people with edgy takes and no life experience.

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              I haven’t been here for that long (start of december) but I feel like I have felt the obvious shift as more reddit people have joined the site.

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                You can see it in the various ‘asklemmy’ communities. When I was left wondering if we were being brigaded by folks from nostupidquestions or having a bot trying to drive engagement with simpleminded stuff, I knew the original lemmy feeling was about to be gone.

                It makes me a little grumpy that I have to experience the eternal september.

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                  Yeah. I’ve seen way more people correcting someone for using the wrong word when it is obvious what they meant instead of responding to what they’ve said and I think that is a big indicator of the kind of people that are joining.

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      Bill Nye kind of is a dick though.

      Some people are really warm in acute person-to-person interactions, but lack the chronic empathy to spread long-term kindness. See “southern hospitality” clashing with who those areas vote for.

      Others have a well-oriented moral compass but are just really abrasive in person. That’s Bill Nye. I’ve met him and he’s not like, super mean but he’s got a bit of a holier-than-thou (or rather, smarter-than-you) complex.