• CaptnNMorgan@lemmy.world
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    None of the women I’ve dated have enough post apocalyptic potential either. One of them said they would kill themselves if a zombie apocalypse started. It takes a strong person for that, man or woman.

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      Are you implying suicide is a weak option? I don’t believe so. It’s not a stronger stance to side with a survival instinct; you could say it’s actually the easiest thing to do. It requires nothing more than to exploit our biology (adrenaline, aggression, etc.). Not to downplay the complexity of all of us animals, but it’s not extraordinary to behave like that, just as a lion or a rat would do too.

      The other option requires something unique to humanity (until now and as far as we know) that is to question our actions, to reflect upon them, to give them a personal value, and to make decisions upon all of this. Few animals commit suicide and probably most do so due to a pathological state and not a philosophical argument behind. To embrace this is very hard; it goes against our body’s program.

      I won’t say it’s necessarily stronger, but neither is it weaker. I admire the honesty and bravery of doing such questions.

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        Suicide is definitely the weakest option someone can take. Maybe you’ve never been suicidal, but I have, and that feeling is so strong. It wouldn’t feel like anything to end it, just a release. But it takes absolutely everything to keep going.

        You may have a point about surviving being instinctual, and therefore someone who is too dumb to even consider suicide I’m any situation, isn’t stronger for not having the thought. But I really don’t think that’s most people. I think most people that would have to struggle to survive an apocalypse, would absolutely be pushing through the urge to end it. Unless all that’s left is savages, suicide is weak as hell.

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          I guess you’re right that it takes an enormous effort to hold on to life in those situations. It reminded me of the book by Viktor Frankl, the one about his observations on who died and who lived while he was in a concentration camp. Man’s Search for Meaning. Although I wouldn’t say all cases of letting go are weak. Sometimes depressive states are like allergies, an organic reaction to low light, lack of nutrients, etc. But I can now see your point.

          The thing I cannot agree with is the ulterior reason. You speak, and probably many people would do too, as if life were an obligation or the right path to follow. As if staying alive was the point, and therefore to submit to the desire to leave or to escape was inherently wrong or mistaken. But there’s no mandate to live in my book. Whoever decides to persevere in life has the right to do so, but, to me, it is just as valid to leave because there is no point in being born nor in dying (again, as far as we know) anyway.

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    Lmao. In a post apocalyptic setting, Elon Musk is a trophy.

    He’d be paraded around on a leash.

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      Elon’s wealth comes from the value of Tesla stock - an overvalued PoS stock that has never paid a single dividend. His twitter loan was secured by Tesla stock, so the more the price tanks, at some point you’d think the loan would be called due.

      But hey, Elon is now in charge of government contracts and spending, what luck.

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      I keep saying that all the billionaires are imaginary. All their money is tied up in concepts. ;ie stocks, bonds etc. hell even land will be worthless in an apocalypse. At most their maybe worth a couple hundred in mill in cash liquidity. Which will also become worthless in an apocalypse…

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    I just want to remind everyone that those who call for war have never experienced it, and the closer you experience it, the less you want it.

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      The folks who come back from war and get folded into the police state are still hungry to relive their “glory” days. The dime store torture goons that have climbed up the rectum of the political system and now occupy Governorships and Senate Seats are sadists who long for the rush of hot blood splatter and the siren’s song of human screams. The gangs of rapists unleashed across Gaza, Egypt, Jordan, and Iraq by their IDF commanders are like locusts - they’ve been created to destroy and that’s all they know how to do.

      The closer you are to war the more is transforms you into a creature of war.

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      I’ve always liked the idea that people who get a country into a war have to have skin in the game: either go to the frontlines, or have a family member there.

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    Moron billionaire class. Think they’ll survive the collapse of humanity in their bunkers. The reality being they will be murdered by their staff on day one.

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    So is he just coming out and saying he’s driving the country into the ground? Is that the point of this? How does this idiot still have any support?

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    Like, we all joke. But Musk’s a carnival barker at heart. He’d fit right in alongside the Colonel Qaddafi and General Butt Naked crowd. The Northern Alliance was overflowing with ego-bloated horn dogs. The Columbian cartels are rife with tin pot business goons.

    You could change Noriega or Pahlavi or Bong Bong Marcos out with Elon Musk and nobody would notice a difference. Hell, there’s a reason a guy like Milei is bro-ing out Elon every chance he gets. They’re the same kind of guy.

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      You underestimate the atrophy having no financial needs or stress concerning any real aspect of survival can create. If we go back to caveman times, no one that has never experienced a blister on their feet is going to be surviving very long.

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    He’s since deleted the post, but in a followup comment he mentioned the irony of talking about becoming a warlord using a picture of Max, a noted warlord killer.

    As typical for all right-wingers, Musk is utterly incapable of critically examining art.

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        Cyberpunk IS cool as long as I get to experience it as a little mental retreat, a neon colored view of the what-if from the comfort of my chair in my paid off house in a country with universal healthcare and strong worker rights.

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    Musk’s power only comes from his wealth. That wealth is in a currency that is tied directly to the world’s trust in the US government. That trust is being very quickly diminished. If things get ‘Mad Max’ bad all of his wealth will be absolutely worthless.

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        Toyota is a car company that makes solid cars with an anonymous CEO. It has a P/E ratio of about 7.5 and a market cap of about $230 billion.

        Tesla is a car company that makes a few solid cars, and one absolutely ridiculous vehicle that is the laughing stock of trucks. It has a CEO that most of the world has an intensely negative opinion of, and that negative opinion is highest among the people wealthy enough to consider buying a Tesla. It has a P/E ratio of approximately 175 and a market cap of $918 billion.

        If Tesla’s P/E ratio fell to something more realistic, let’s be extremely generous and say 7, it would be worth only $37 billion, about 4% of the current value. Realistically, it should be significantly below that. When people are regularly spraypainting swastikas on your vehicles, your P/E ratio should be lower than other automobile manufacturers because it’s a sign that your future growth prospects may be slightly impaired by the unwillingness of people to buy your vehicles.

        When Tesla’s value does collapse (and I’m convinced it’s a “when” not an “if”) it will crater Musk’s net worth, because at least half of it is due to his Tesla stock.

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          I fucking hate stock market bullshit it’s just made up of people’s feels. Not even grounded in reality in the slightest.

          Maybe when people collectively realize this ridiculous smoke trick of run away capitalism as our means of social organization is just that, smoke, we may have a chance.

          But I guess in the meantime I wish I would have bought Bitcoin years ago even though it’s being treated as a security when it’s backed by thin air. It’s wild how concentrated the actual amount of Bitcoin is though. It’s like an oligarch’s wet dream.

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            As much as people hate short sellers, this is how they’re useful. They help make the prices of things in the stock market more realistic by finding the companies that are overvalued, short-selling them, and then telling the world how badly overvalued the companies are so that their stock returns to a more realistic price.

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          Supposedly the self driving capabilities is the reason for the high valuation, but he has lied about having it ‘by the end of the year’ for about a decade now. So maybe they will catch on around 2030 if the economy doesn’t completely collapse in the next few years.

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            Nobody who knows anything about self-driving would give Tesla any credit for that.

            The fact that Tesla’s slight improvement to lane-assist is labelled as “full self-driving” by Tesla has really damaged the reputation of the industry. GM is way ahead of them because of the knowledge they have in-house thanks to Cruise. And Cruise gave up because they were so far behind Waymo.

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              Cruze also parked on a pedestrian, but I think Waymo is only working because google has the money to blow on human monitors working remotely.

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                Cruze is a different thing. Cruise did have a very public incident where a pedestrian was hit and dragged. But, they had driven more than 1 million miles without that happening.

                And while these vehicles do have human monitors, they’re mostly that: monitors. The cars are mostly driving themselves.

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      Well most of that wealth is in the Tesla meme-stock (whose valuation he uses as collateral for credit), encompassing various nonsense-ventures, the roadster that never materialised, the electric articulated truck with thermonuclear-explosion-proof windscreen that doesn’t exist, a fake remote controlled robot, self-driving cars without the necessary sensors, not to mention a whole host of other stuff like a Mars colony that cannot possibly happen while observing the laws of physics as we understand them. Sorry but it was all such obvious bullshit to anybody that even paid a little bit of attention. How none of it was fraud is beyond me (free speech!). Instead of getting prosecuted governments (not limited to republicans) gave him contracts worth billions with which he extended and consolidated his burgeoning power.

      There is a whole host of people who facilitated Musk’s rise to power, from billionaire-owned media outlets failing to question his bullshit, to $TSLA owners who have probably profited quite handsomely in the last few months. But I suppose that is the nature of capitalism laid bare - I’ll get mine and fuck you.

      If it is true that one of China’s policies, with regard to beating America over the last and coming decades, was ‘do nothing and win’ we can see exactly why through Musk’s story.

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    Yeah, because when the world crumbles, it’s going to be that walking bag of mayonnaise and bile that people are going to want in charge.

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      when the world crumbles,

      when? shit’s on fire yo.

      that walking bag of mayonnaise and bile that people are going to want in charge.

      well put. unfortunately I think we’re here, now.

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    I’ve probably got twice the warlord potential he has. Which is to say, I have really shit warlord potential.