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          He said he reverted in prison a few years ago but lately started dropping the act. Now that he is out of prison he will likely drop it.

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          I assume he’s about as much a Muslim as trump is a Christian (ie only when it’s convenient, and he probably doesn’t know what all those words mean in that order, anyway)

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          He became Muslim because of the misogyny and incels of the religion, he’s in for the grift, much like Russel brand became “born again”

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          He converted in 2022 to boost his standing in Dubai with crypto traders

          The funny thing is, Muslims will absolutely discipline their own, and most tend to not like abuse of women, especially how Tate does it. There’s morally allowed abuses of women in some sects, but they have to be seen as justified in some regard - eg rejecting a MARRIAGE proposal might result in an acid attack. A man preying on women to sleep with him, no marriage, like how Tate does it and speaks about it, goes against everything I’m aware of in the Quran and could result in a jihad response afaik (not violent jihad per se).

          He’s just so disrespectful and arrogant he thinks no one will touch him.

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            Are you suggesting that there are mainstream (are other) sects of Islam that teach that the “justified” response to a marriage proposal rejection is an acid attack…?

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              There are extremist sects of Islam (not the vast majority of Muslims, who are extremely charitable and who invented the first hospital, which was free, among many other things) that have incorporated acid attacks on women as a form of what they see as valid punishment, yes, and they have supporters who think this is a good thing to do and that the women deserve it for tempting the men. It is not ONLY people in these groups or who are Muslim who do acid attacks ofc, acid attacks are a global issue.

              I have seen interviews and discussions by women who’ve been attacked with acid and that is what they describe in terms of public sentiment (“she deserved it,”) and thus their advocacy work centralizes around changing those beliefs.

              https://resurge.org/stories/two-acid-attack-survivors-meet-for-the-first-time/

              https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/acid-attacks-pakistans-worst-social-epidemic

              Here’s a brief list of countries and some incidents and explains motivating factors for the attacks: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_attack

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                That’s a societal issue. You still haven’t sourced which sect justifies it. If you said something like this with Judaism, you would be called an anti semite. You are making up a claim with some examples, not proving your claim. Or do you just not understand what a sect means?

                There are extremist sects of Islam that have incorporated acid attacks on women as a form of what they see as valid punishment, yes

                Name them

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                  I literally already did, it’s in the Wikipedia article I linked, in the region area. Clearly you didn’t bother to look.

                  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_attack

                  Afghanistan

                  Such attacks or threats against women who failed to wear hijab, dress “modestly” or otherwise threaten traditional norms have been reported in Afghanistan.[111] In November 2008, extremists subjected girls to acid attacks for attending school.

                  https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/world/asia/14kandahar.html

                  The attacks appeared to be the work of the Taliban, the fundamentalist movement that is battling the government and the American-led coalition. Banning girls from school was one of the most notorious symbols of the Taliban’s rule before they were ousted from power in November 2001.


                  The Levant

                  In 1983, acid attacks were reported to be carried out by Mujama al-Islamiya against men and women who spoke out against the Mujama in the Islamic University of Gaza.[123] Additional attacks by Mujama al-Islamiya were reported through 1986

                  During the First Intifada, Hamas and other Islamist factions conducted an organized intimidation of women to dress “modestly” or wear the hijab. Circulars were distributed specifying proper modest dress and behavior. Women who did not conform to these expectations, or to “morality expectations” of secular factions, were vulnerable to attacks which included pouring acid on their bodies, rock pelting, threats, and even rape.[125][123][126] B’Tselem has also documented additional attacks with acid in specific attacks involving women in a collaboration context.

                  In 2006–07, as part of a wider campaign to enforce Islamist moral conduct, the al-Qaida affiliated “Suyuf al-Haq” (Swords of Righteousness) claimed to have thrown acid on the faces of “immodestly” dressed woman in Gaza as well as engaging in intimidation via threats.


                  And I’m totally comfortable saying that there are Jewish extremist groups who commit terrorism to harm others as well. And there’s Christian and Buddhist groups that do that as well. It’s not antisemitic or Islamophobic to literally describe what people are doing, per survivors from those groups. That it makes those specific Islamic groups look bad is, well, on them. Don’t burn people with acid. Don’t genocide Gazans. Etc.

                  And as I’ve already said, yes, other people and other groups burn people with acid too. That’s not really relevant to my original comment though, which is about how Islamic sects will likely not tolerate someone like the Tates, even if those same people do other things that harm women. Yes, there is abuse of women in Islam with some groups, including acid attacks, but that abuse is often informed by the moral code of those practitioners and absolutely nothing the Tates do is justifiable by the religion. The idea of the Prophet Mohammed being okay with sex trafficking - that’s extremely offensive. It’s an extreme moral incompatibility that will likely result in conflict since he is harming real people pretty indiscriminately.

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            Jihad doesn’t mean punishment. You mean sharia law? Also the acid comment is just absurdly made up. Rejecting a marriage proposal doesn’t justify even verbal abuse, idk what sources you have. Just spouting bs.

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              Jihad means to fight against evil - Tate’s actions are evil in the eyes of Islam and most people in the world.

              I don’t mean Sharia Law.

              I never said acid attacks are justified. I’m saying that even to these men who attack women with acid, what the Tates are doing and did is abhorrent to even someone like that.

              And here, about acid attacks by Islamic groups, there’s a bunch, idk why you all who literally don’t care about women even slightly have to act like you know anything about acid attacks or what women go through, but you have to deny it outright because…?

              I gave sources further down the chain and already explained acid attacks are worldwide and not confined to Islam.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_attack

              Afghanistan

              Such attacks or threats against women who failed to wear hijab, dress “modestly” or otherwise threaten traditional norms have been reported in Afghanistan.[111] In November 2008, extremists subjected girls to acid attacks for attending school.

              https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/world/asia/14kandahar.html

              The attacks appeared to be the work of the Taliban, the fundamentalist movement that is battling the government and the American-led coalition. Banning girls from school was one of the most notorious symbols of the Taliban’s rule before they were ousted from power in November 2001.

              The Levant

              In 1983, acid attacks were reported to be carried out by Mujama al-Islamiya against men and women who spoke out against the Mujama in the Islamic University of Gaza.[123] Additional attacks by Mujama al-Islamiya were reported through 1986

              During the First Intifada, Hamas and other Islamist factions conducted an organized intimidation of women to dress “modestly” or wear the hijab. Circulars were distributed specifying proper modest dress and behavior. Women who did not conform to these expectations, or to “morality expectations” of secular factions, were vulnerable to attacks which included pouring acid on their bodies, rock pelting, threats, and even rape.[125][123][126] B’Tselem has also documented additional attacks with acid in specific attacks involving women in a collaboration context.

              In 2006–07, as part of a wider campaign to enforce Islamist moral conduct, the al-Qaida affiliated “Suyuf al-Haq” (Swords of Righteousness) claimed to have thrown acid on the faces of “immodestly” dressed woman in Gaza as well as engaging in intimidation via threats.

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                I understood your intent but mixing it with absurd statements is not something I agree with. Using taliban as a “sect” is simply rubbish. I know how disgustingly violent and misogynist they are. You are simply arguing bad faith if you talk as if taliban is a “sect” that Anyone outside Afghanistan can follow. It’s a terror regime, not a sect.

                I noticed this a lot. When speaking for muslims, people always add these dehumanising disclaimers. No one talks about israeli oppression or bizarre jewish laws when speaking up against anti-sematism. Same goes for topics like hate against indians abroad. No one adds a disclaimer except when it’s about muslims. “Hey, they have the right to live. Even though they are probably bombers, don’t harm them!” Tired of this bs

                NYT the same guys that posted about 40 beheaded babies? Sure I’ll believe it. You simply have no knowledge regarding this topic. I’m blocking you.

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                  It’s not absurd. It’s reality.

                  Sounds like I was correct, and there were more groups than just the Taliban that were listed anyway.

                  I wasn’t speaking “for” Muslims, I was pointing out the incongruence in Tate’s behavior and how that will clash with Muslim values and possibly extremists, made aware because he’s infamous.

                  No one talks about israeli oppression or bizarre jewish laws when speaking up against anti-sematism.

                  I wasn’t speaking up against Islamophobia. I was talking about how a recent convert to Islam, who is a horrible terrible human trafficker and rapist, is so bad that he may trigger the ire of extremists in the religion he joined TO SCAM PEOPLE via crypto. That’s why they were mentioned- as a comparison to Tate.

                  And I see Jewish hate often now that it’s cool to hate Israel, and Indian hate to a lesser degree. Further, you bringing up Jews and Indians - they are pretty classic groups many Muslims hate. So you’re entirely aware they indeed get criticism and that’s probably why you specifically mention them and not Christians. Seems racist of you.

                  “Hey, they have the right to live. Even though they are probably bombers, don’t harm them!” Tired of this bs

                  I wasn’t talking about rights. You’re tired of BS you’re inventing to be upset about, maybe stop doing that.

                  You’re welcome to disregard the NYT link and see the other examples listed.

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                You linked a crime tho. How and which sect is justifying it?

                It’s so normal to be islamophobic smh

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                  Did I say it’s not a crime? I’m not defending it, I only linked it because it is probably an example of what the other person was referring to.

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                Here, and I also never said it was widespread and was simply comparing the “worst” treatment of women in Islam to the treatment the Tates give women, and was comparing how their abuse of women is WELL outside of anything even extremists would tolerate. Premarital sex is a huge no no, especially trafficking women, filming them, pimping them- that’s HIGHLY offensive to Islamic beliefs. They are not compatible with the morals of Islam.

                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acid_attack

                Afghanistan

                Such attacks or threats against women who failed to wear hijab, dress “modestly” or otherwise threaten traditional norms have been reported in Afghanistan.[111] In November 2008, extremists subjected girls to acid attacks for attending school.

                https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/14/world/asia/14kandahar.html

                The attacks appeared to be the work of the Taliban, the fundamentalist movement that is battling the government and the American-led coalition. Banning girls from school was one of the most notorious symbols of the Taliban’s rule before they were ousted from power in November 2001.

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                In 1983, acid attacks were reported to be carried out by Mujama al-Islamiya against men and women who spoke out against the Mujama in the Islamic University of Gaza.[123] Additional attacks by Mujama al-Islamiya were reported through 1986

                During the First Intifada, Hamas and other Islamist factions conducted an organized intimidation of women to dress “modestly” or wear the hijab. Circulars were distributed specifying proper modest dress and behavior. Women who did not conform to these expectations, or to “morality expectations” of secular factions, were vulnerable to attacks which included pouring acid on their bodies, rock pelting, threats, and even rape.[125][123][126] B’Tselem has also documented additional attacks with acid in specific attacks involving women in a collaboration context.

                In 2006–07, as part of a wider campaign to enforce Islamist moral conduct, the al-Qaida affiliated “Suyuf al-Haq” (Swords of Righteousness) claimed to have thrown acid on the faces of “immodestly” dressed woman in Gaza as well as engaging in intimidation via threats.

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        I definitely get that vibe from that headline. It’s not that the US reached out and said “touch not one hair on my precious scumbags”, it’s that they did it for someone who scumbags who also claim to be Muslim and fail the melanin deficiency test.

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    Is there any one quality that more of the people surrounding Trump share than being serial sex abusers?

    I can’t think of one.

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      I think they all have to share their “special secret”. If one of the group doesn’t, they are a liability.

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        Undoubtedly sort of.

        It’s not so much “closet homosexuality” as that sexuality is a spectrum, which means that most people have some greater-than-zero amount of attraction to their same sex, which is a problem for desperately insecure bigots, and he’s a desperately insecure bigot.

        For the majority of people, the portion of their sexuality that’s focused on their same sex is not significant enough to justify defining themselves as anything other than heterosexual - it just is, or possibly just was, a source of occasional thoughts or fantasies or, in some cases, experimentation. In fact, it’s quite possible that, not particularly concerned about it, they’ve never even consciously realized that some portion of their sexual attention is drawn to their same sex.

        However, for the “incel” personality type, like Tate, that amount greater-than-zero of attraction to their same sex can be a cause for overwhelming shame. It’s not enough for them to be heterosexual overall - their insecurity and self-doubt and need to puff themselves up demands that they be 100% straight manly men. And they aren’t. Never mind that that portion of their attention that’s focused on their same sex is near certainly insignificant in and of itself - to them its mere existence is an existential threat to their already shaky self-images, so they feel a need to, and often do, put an outsized focus on stamping it down and making every effort to pretend it doesn’t exist at all. Which ends up warping their personalities, and ironically enough making them even more focused on homosexuality than they would’ve been had they, as most people do, just not worried about it in the first place.

        So yes, sort of.

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    This is not the onion, but Desantis might go after him. It could all be a stunt, of course.

    https://www.salon.com/2025/02/27/zero-tolerance-desantis-says-andrew-tate-is-not-welcome-in-florida-as-maga-celebrates-release/?in_brief=true

    From the Miami Herald article:

    But Tate’s claim that the Romanian case against him was dismissed in December isn’t true. While a Bucharest court ruled that the first criminal case could not proceed due to legal and procedural irregularities, the charges against the Tates remain in effect. What’s unclear is how further cases will proceed now that the Tates are back on American soil.

    https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article301122934.html

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      If he does, this will be the one and only time I ever root for that piece of shit. Desantis that is, not the other pos.

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    Did something change with the babylon bee? Sudden surge of actually decent content all of a sudden

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      If you go to their site this is definitely the exception and not the rule. The rest of the articles today are bashing Zelensky.

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      Clicked the link and got a banner for a movie trailer which mocks the idea that January 6 was violent.

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      Right wingers are starting to act non/anti-christian more prominently from power, it seems. So Babylon bee has material from the right to make fun of. Or maybe not, it kind of always existed, now thinking.

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        Idk, I always felt that there was a conservative slant to the bee. It’s never there 100% of the time, but it’s kinda like if the Onion was written by a bunch of bootlickers.

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          like if the Onion was written by a bunch of bootlickers.

          This is exactly what it is. Seth Dillon was also the guy who recruited the Libs of TikTok lady, if memory serves.

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      I mean look at all the fake-ass christians infecting the world, is it so hard to believe that there are plenty of fake-ass muslims too? I was friends with a Palestinian/Jordanian guy and he told me it was commonplace in Jordan to have a group of men drinking tea at a cafe, except the tea pot was full of liquor. I don’t know if it was meant to hide it from other people, hide it from god, or both.

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        I mean. The only place to get alcohol past midnight in the Canadian town I grew up in was an all night tea house. But we were just trying to hide it from the cops.

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    Real news is more oniony than The Onion now. They ought to start doing super bland fake stories like “Cat Stuck in Tree, Saved by Local Fire Department.” Kind of like a form of eye bleach.

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    Is he an actual Muslim? Or did he convert just to lessen the heat on him?