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I can’t believe there are actually people who are surprised about his ‘proposal’ at all. Like… everyone saw this coming, right? Plenty of people have been warning other people for years that Trump would do this sort of shit.
But hey, what do I know. I’m just an alarmist fearmonger. Or whatever they used to call me.
Plenty of people have been warning other people for years that Trump would do this sort of shit.
Frankly, he is just saying the quiet part out loud.
Or, do you think Israel ever didn’t intend to do genocide?
Oh no, of course not. Fucking Zionists.
What I meant was that it should be a surprise to no one that Trump says these things. He’s been letting the world know who he is for a long time. You’re right, no more dog whistles, but not exactly a surprise either.
Backlash only matters if he or anyone he surrounds himself with actually gives a shit.
Hell, it only matters if anyone cares, and based on the Dems and GOP in the US, neither of them really, honestly care. And most Harris supporters don’t care either, as well as, well, I can safely say no Trump voters care.
There are large communities of muslims in the midwest. MN, MI, & WI are all battle ground states. It’s part of why Harris lost.
US President Donald Trump is facing widespread criticism and accusations of proposing ethnic cleansing after stating that he would like to “just clean out” Gaza and relocate its Palestinian population to neighbouring countries.
Speaking aboard Air Force One during a flight from Las Vegas to Miami on Saturday, Trump described Gaza as a “demolition site” and suggested moving its residents to Jordan and Egypt.
“I’d like Egypt to take people. I’d like Jordan to take people,” Trump said. “You’re talking about probably a million and a half people, and we just clean out that whole thing.”
He added that the move could be either temporary or long-term, saying, “something has to happen”
To everybody who voted against Kamala Harris because she didn’t change her stance on Gaza, how does it feel to be played harder than a tenor saxophone?
I don’t see any appropriate backlash to any of his shit so far.
Yep. The only pushback is from the countries he wants to cleanse them into or the people themselves he wants cleansed. It’s self preservation.
The left strongly disapprove, but that’s it enough for a backlash. The leftists think Biden was just as bad and the right and diet-right voters don’t care or are happily on board.
Of course it is ethnic cleansing. But in his opinion, it is the good kind of ethnic cleansing. Just like deporting immigrants, or sometimes even Native Americans…
And they’ll eventually realise that “good” ethnic cleansing is actually quite expensive, and who will really miss them anyway?
Trump’s administration should really just come up with some sort of, ‘last answer’. Something cheaper than deportation, doesn’t let those undesirables the opportunity to come back in, and sends a message to any other undesirables. I just can’t think of what that could be. /S
Oohhh, like some sort of solution? Like one that’s final?? Hmmm…
#neckpussy
I guess all the “Genocide Joe” commenters aren’t getting paid to skew the election anymore, so they won’t be here to comment.
I haven’t seen “Genocide Don” yet. Funny that.
Isn’t Trump’s middle name James? Genocide James works. And you could Photoshop him trying to look cool, like dark Brandon. But obviously just sad like some 60 year old trying to look cool at the barbeque and failing miserably, but even worse because he’s older… And trump.
It’s John (which also happens to be a pseudonym he’s used). You could say “Genocide John,” but nobody would know who you’re talking about.
They’re still around unfortunately, but they are fewer in number.
The bots left, we’re left with the dumbasses who believed them.
Just check the downvote total to see how many accounts are still here.
There are a few stragglers around still. And just as sanctimonious with their tiresome and reckless high-flying rhetoric about how principled they are…
sigh.
Bro did you see that articicle about the x whistleblower and how elon influenced the election
I hadn’t; any source, by chance (or summarization, if not)?
I’m right here. Trump is gearing up to act as genocidal as Biden was but he’s not there yet
Or, and this is crazy, Biden could have earned more votes for the DNC by using the Leahy Law and requiring Israel to stop committing war crimes if they wanted to continue to receive military aid.
Almost like it’s the responsibility of parties and politicians to earn votes in a democratic system. Not the duty of voters to vote for the “correct” party, which is what you see codified in Authoritarian governments. The writers of our Constitution specifically said the reason for having elections so often was to make sure politicians were responsible to the people, not the other way around.
So the more you try to blame the voters, the more you make them not want to vote blue.
Most of the genocide Joe commenters were russian bots. Those left were fooled by them.
I’m here. Biden is a genocidal monster, and nothing Trump can do will change that fact.
.ml user with a braindead take? yeah, that checks out.
Its braindead to not support a genocider?
So you don’t think Biden was complicit in the genocide? The one he funded?
The fact that you place the entire weight of 80 years of US Israeli policy on its most reluctant participant demonstrates your agenda. If Trump was in office on Oct. 7, there would be no palestinian territories anymore. They’d be under the Israeli flag and stained with the blood of American soldiers.
The fact that you place the entire weight of 80 years of US Israeli policy
No, I just place the weight of the Commander in Chief refusing to abide by US law, and ending arms shipments to a genocidal rouge nuclear state, and preventing the UN from holding the genocidal rogue nuclear state to account.
The fact that you place the entire weight of 80 years of US Israeli policy on its most reluctant participant
Biden was not reluctant in the slightest and neither are you.
So much for the rational bit of your username.
Though, I guess you can be rational and wrong if you start from false premises.
Biden, and any other American president, can end Israeli wars with a single phone call.
Reagan did it.
Bush did it.
Clinton did it.
In fact, the Israeli military systematically doesn’t know how to end wars because they’ve never had to do it. America has always ended their wars.
It’s literally an aspect of their political ideology:
‘Oh our party can’t be blamed for the war goals not being accomplished. We had to stop because America’
You’re either so horrifically ignorant of recent history (my still living father is older than the state of Israel) that any opinion you spout can be tossed out (no matter how rational), or you know this and are trying to actively provide cover for a president who was happy with the slaughter of mostly children.
Which is it?
Edit: and to be exact, it’s 77 years. And the US wasn’t exactly friendly at the start due to the perceived communist sympathies of the young state. You know, the whole cold war thing? You may have heard of it?
Yeah, you can’t get away with critising Dear Leader Biden on .world
And yet, here you are doing just that.
Now, let’s all take a moment and quietly imagine what would happen if someone should go to .ml and call out Putin for being a sad little coward that can’t take criticism without windowing someone to death…
call out Putin for being a sad little coward that can’t take criticism without windowing someone to death…
I do not think that would be an issue. Its not like Putin is even pretending to be a leftist, nor has he ever.
Seriously? The admin there refuses to answer when asked if they support Russia. And check the modlogs. They hand out vague “rule 1” violations that are critical of communism sometimes several times a day.
.ml isn’t just a safe haven for leftist trolls.
are critical of communism sometimes several times a day.
Criticizing communism isn’t criticizing Putin, who is not a communist.
I’ve had posts criticizing capitalism be removed from .world… So, obviously, they hate the US, right?
Still not hearing any trump criticism from ya…
Still not hearing any trump criticism from ya…
Criticize him for supporting a genocide in Israel? Last I heard from the neoliberals, that’s just a practical necessity, and we cannot blame Trump for 77 years of US-Israeli policy…
Woah. What’s it called when you can’t tell sarcasm and serious apart? Godwinned?
The .ml troll that got banned, are they serious or are they playing? That went 0 to nazi in the fewest steps I think I’ve ever seen.
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Good, keep making yourself known so we know who to ignore.
You will ignore someone for calling a genocider a genocider?
Ok.
I only started using the term after the election, I wish I was paid. It’s crazy how I’m expected to shut up about it for the next 4 years. Apparently, asking the dems to change their stance on genocide of everything is too much and everyone would rather stick their head in the sand. The moment someone enables it just a bit more then them, they get none of the blame and we get to wait through 4 years of shit just for them to give us literally the same stance.
Both parties enable it and are complicit. Defending either on the subject is clear bootlicking imo.
No one is defending either on the subject. We are simply stating that one is WORSE than the other by an order of magnitude. Honestly, how can you not see that?
It’s not just that he’s much worse it’s that some people somehow expected him to be better?!?
I don’t think anyone realistically thought he’d be “better”, unless you count the scum who consider “More dying” to be “better”.
I’ve seen multiple videos of people walking around interviewing people that voted for him and asking why. Lots of them stated that Biden arming Israel against Gaza was a major concern for them. None of the interviewers dug into what they hoped would change but it was clear they expected Trump to improve the situation for the people of Gaza. Now I’ve got no idea why they thought that - I certainly never saw anything to make me think that - but lots of people seemed have got that message.
Not only that, but if you took them at their word, that donvict and Kamala would have been the eXaCtSaMe on Gaza, then that issue is cancelled out and you have to weigh all the other policy positions, and even then, it is clear that donvict is a TERRIBLE choice compared to Kamala.
They have no excuse. None.
Not only that, but if you took them at their word, that donvict and Kamala would have been the eXaCtSaMe on Gaza, then that issue is cancelled out
Not true.
You can refuse to support both of them because they are both evil, and you morally should not support evil. Even if one evil person will put more money in your pocket, or if one person will smile at you while your rights are being eroded while telling you nothing is wrong.
What is worse than bombing civilians?
Incidents include a January attack in Rafah which killed at least 95 civilians, including 42 children, with evidence of the use of a Boeing-manufactured bomb
His comment implies anyone speaking disfavorably about the dems stance on genocide is somehow a paid shill.
Read the rest of the comments. It’s always the same thing. The dems lost because the voters got manipulated into thinking genocide was something to draw a line over. Well it fucking was. I still think not voting and voting for Trump of all people is massively stupid but I hate the message we are sending.
Trump isn’t worse, he’s the same on it. We shouldn’t be calling them anything other then Genocide Joe and Genocide Trump. Biden did a lot of good but his whole legacy is not breaking with genocide.
We have 4 years to exert pressure and make sure the next candidate isn’t a mossad and wallstreet plant. Instead we are infighting like peasants and trying are hardest to not hold the politicians who are suppose to represent us accountable.
Biden did a lot of good but his whole legacy is not breaking with genocide.
Now Trump has already undone most of that good, has 4 more years to cause damage, and the genocide that you “drew a line over” hasn’t stopped. Nice job.
Now Trump has already undone most of that good, has 4 more years to cause damage, and the genocide that you “drew a line over” hasn’t stopped. Nice job.
Yeah americans really are fucked up right? You kick a genocider out, a worse one comes back. It’s endless. I want to think americans are subconciously in favor of genocide, whatever they tell themselves. After all, it’s how they got all their land , their sprawling suburbs and their first world lifestyle.
I voted strategically but I shouldnt have to do it while gritting my teeth. They offered nothing because they thought they had an easy win. If we keep pointing at scapegoats and refuse to lay the blame with the ones actually in charge, we get the same exact choice in 4 years and we will lose again.
Ya, drawing the line was dumb but so is blaming the ones that drew it instead of the driver that’s sending a train straight into a group of children.
They offered nothing because they thought they had an easy win.
Remember, nothing was…
A woman’s bodily autonomy. A Trans person’s right to comfort in their body. The separation between church and state. A birthright citizens right to live in their country. An employee’s right to a safe job.
And so much more… And it’s only been 7 days. Fuck anyone who said the Dems brought nothing to the table. You ignored what they were fighting to keep a hold of in order to parrot some bullshit Russian disinfo false equivalency about a genocide being committed by a different fucking leader in a different fucking country.
A woman’s bodily autonomy. A Trans person’s right to comfort in their body. The separation between church and state. A birthright citizens right to live in their country. An employee’s right to a safe job.
Hate to break it to you, but we were losing ground on all of that, even with Biden as POTUS. Hell, a fair chunk of that happened when Biden was POTUS, and Dems had a majority in the house and senate.
And yes, don’t talk to me “But Manchin/Sinema!!!”… Fuck off. Because if they were so bad, why were the dems funding those campaigns? Where was the party leaders, demanding their people get on the line, or else lose committee seats, lose money, etc etc.
And why didn’t the Dems drop the filibuster from the senate rules packages? Simple majority vote for everything.
Its almost like they pretended to want to do things to better the working class conditions, without actually doing anything, in order to provide a constant feed of campaign talking points to run on.
Why are you ignoring all the funds and arms sent to this entire different country? Do you think all that military aid is Russian disinfo?
Trump immediately authorized 2000 lb bombs for Israel. That wasn’t a thing before. He’s worse and you suck for enabling him.
Biden authorized sending 2000lb bombs.
Then it came out that such bombs were being sent and under pressure he paused the sending of those bombs.
Trump resumed it.
You’re whitewashing Biden’s part in the willful mass murder of civilians (the US Military itself refuses to use 2000lb bombs exactly because of their massive collateral damage and Israel was using them in an urban area thus maximizing the killing from said collateral damage) for political point scoring.
While you’re claiming the other poster “sucks” for being critical of Biden’s stance on this you might want to look at yourself in a mirror.
I mean one 2000 lbs bomb, or 2 1000 lbs bombs… The result is the same: A genocide.
During President Joe Biden’s administration, the United States supplied Israel with substantial military aid, including large quantities of heavy munitions. Notably, since the onset of the conflict with Hamas on October 7, 2023, the U.S. provided Israel with over 10,000 2,000-pound bombs and thousands of Hellfire missiles.
These 2,000-pound bombs, often referred to as “bunker busters,” are among the most powerful non-nuclear munitions in the U.S. arsenal, designed to penetrate hardened targets. Their deployment has been a subject of international concern due to the potential for significant civilian casualties, especially in densely populated areas like Gaza.
In May 2024, the Biden administration temporarily withheld a shipment of these heavy bombs over concerns about their use in Gaza. However, by June 2024, approximately half of the withheld shipment was released to Israel.
It’s important to note that in January 2025, President Donald Trump reversed the remaining hold, instructing the Pentagon to release the 2,000-pound bombs to Israel.
Are you willingly straight up lying or are you just being lied to?
I hope you’re right about four years because that’s a return to normalcy that I can barely imagine right now
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The paid shills were running a con. If you weren’t on payroll, then you’re the mark.
Seeing how most of the conmen have cut and run now that the job is done, it really only leaves one option for you.
His comment implies anyone speaking disfavorably about the dems stance on genocide is somehow a paid shill.
We’re easy to dismiss that way. Then they don’t have to think about how monstrous they have been to support genocide all this time.
Did you say you voted for Kamala?
She was the only viable option other than trump, as pro-genocide centrists were so fond of gloating. I voted for her. You gonna gloat that I voted for your genocide now?
Yep! You voted for genocide. Thanks for admitting that.
There are a disturbing number of people in this thread who feel that condemning Democrats is more important than worrying about what is about to happen to Palestinians.
As if you folks were using genocide as a tool. And it’s pretty hard to read.
condemning Democrats is more important than worrying about what is about to happen to Palestinians.
Well, if we want to take it this way…
Yes, Trump’s open declaration of supporting a genocide in Palestine is just as bad as when Biden did it. They are both fucking ghouls, and I hope they both join Kissinger, Reagan, and Thatcher soon.
I don’t give a shit about Trump or Biden. I give a shit about Palestinians. And I have asked multiple people in this thread when they have ever asked a Palestinian what their needs are. You know how many people have told me when they did that? I’ll give you a hint: it’s less than one.
How about you?
When you dismiss people condemning the democrats, you essentially send the message that enabling genocide is okay.
I see attacking the voters as a zionist dog whistle, to desensitize on the subject and low key make genocide something that can be overlooked for the “right” reasons.
Insulting to be said I’m using it as a tool. Every thread about it, there’s multiple comments talking about the voters and using them as a scapegoat. I’m just responding to them. If I’m using it as a tool, so are you. And you are a lot more vocal about it then me.
I am dismissing people continuing to talk about the election when it’s over as if it matters when people are fucking dying.
But you don’t care because American politics.
Seems like you’re dismissing only the people responding to the behavior negatively and not the ones actually doing the behavior. I find it convenient that you are constantly silent on the genocide in general. I only see you commenting when it comes to pointing the finger at scapegoats. It’s easy to notice with the amount you post (not an insult, just an observation, I don’t mind high engagement).
It doesn’t seem like you are arguing in good faith, since you accuse me of something I’m clearly trying to curtail.
Yes it’s annoying when every thread about the genocide has people screaming at the top of their lungs trying to blame voters.
I have more to say on the subject but I was too harsh and got my comment removed so I will leave it at that.
No, I’m dismissing anyone who doesn’t give enough of a shit about Palestinians to bother talking to them.
How often have you done it?
Feeling empathy for a population isn’t contigent on direct communication with them. Pure rhetoric. But to answer your question, I have a good friend who’s Palestinian. He’s been here for many years but it was still brutal to see how it affected him. So yes, I’ve talked to them.
You are also dismissing only the people that don’t align with your beliefs. You are clearly only pushing one side, the one that makes light of the genocide and seeks to divert attention to anyone who isn’t Biden and by extent Israel, and it’s easy to assume why.
I am dismissing people continuing to talk about the election when it’s over as if it matters when people are fucking dying.
Did it matter 30 days ago to you? If so, why do you support the person wanting to continue it, and blame voters for not wanting either of the genociders?
Of course it mattered to me 30 days ago. It mattered to me when this genocide started which is why I have been doing everything in my very limited powers to stop it. What have you done?
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AHAHAHAHAHAH
Are you fucking kidding? Under EVERY news about palestine, there’s some idiot american going like “oh at least it’s not biden”. Quit projecting. Not everything is about you
Where did I make it about me?
When are you going to give more of a shit about Palestinians than American politics?
When americans stop bombing people I guess.
Hey it won’t happen anytime soon
And there it is: fuck Palestinians. They don’t matter.
Which is what I was saying about all of this arguing over American politics.
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This is the top of this comment thread (link). And it’s been like this for 3 months in any content section about Palestinians. It really seems like the big push is to absolve the DNC for it’s support of Netanyahu. Elsewhere in this thread they try to characterize Biden’s complete support and mirroring of IDF propaganda as “reluctant”.
Biden is irrelevant now. But people would rather talk about him than talk about what Palestinians need today.
Fuck Biden, fuck Trump. Let’s talk about their needs. No one here seems interested in that.
That frustrates me too.
What a shock that no one could’ve ever seen coming.
Oh wait:
Well at least it’s not genocide!
/s
The “two parties are the same,” “Genocide Joe” people are literally quibbling about that just to maintain their arguments and it’s depressing.
Well after all, if you argue with them, you’re a genocide supporting liberal troll. Sometimes in all caps, even!
I always tell them how many hours a week (until recently, for unrelated issues) I have spent sending emails, making phone calls and even visiting politicians’ offices to beg for them to do something about the genocide and ask them if they have even sent one form email or made one phone call.
The closest I got to anyone saying they did anything of actual note was someone who hilariously told me that they couldn’t tell me what they did because it would ruin their anonymity. As if there would be no possible way to put it in general terms.
I even ask them if they ever have talked to a Palestinian about what they think. But of course not. Because they don’t actually care about genocide, they care about berating people and playing political games on the internet.
Performative outrage is so much easier than working towards real change though!
You mean like being outraged people are unwilling to vote for you, because you fully endorsed a genocide?
Or the performative outage at the genocide now, that was somehow “Just a practical necessity” just about 30 days ago?
If genocide support wasn’t your bright line before, why is it suddenly your bright line?
I’m sorry you lost me there mate. Let’s take them in order
I’m not and have never been a political candidate.
The performative outrage of which I speak is people encouraging that the Democrats be punished despite the explicitly stated desire and highly probable outcome of the Republicans enabling greater atrocities, whilst disregarding the harder and more useful work of pushing individuals to oppose the genocide within the existing system of reality
What is this even meant to mean? This is precisely the performative outrage of which I speak, and it doesn’t even carry semantic weight. It’s just useless pseudo-accusatory sentiment
The performative outrage of which I speak is people encouraging that the Democrats be punished despite the explicitly stated desire and highly probable outcome of the Republicans enabling greater atrocities, whilst disregarding the harder and more useful work of pushing individuals to oppose the genocide within the existing system of reality
How do you push elected reps to not genocide, if there are never repercussions for it, because you’ll still always vote for them?
And what greater atrocities are there than genocide? Its like the one thing the entire world (At one point) agreed on, and called it “Crimes against humanity”…
Ah yes we’re seeing the “real changes” right now lmao
The closest I got to anyone saying they did anything of actual note was
Well, let me assure you, I’ve done more than just phone calls and emails. However, I cannot admit to them publicly.
That’s a real cop-out and you know it. You could say something extremely general, but you won’t, because you haven’t done a thing.
I’ve done something extremely general.
I always tell them how many hours a week (until recently, for unrelated issues) I have spent sending emails, making phone calls and even visiting politicians’ offices to beg for them to do something about the genocide and ask them if they have even sent one form email or made one phone call.
So you did all this, didn’t got any answer and still voted for them?
Lmao what a submissive mindset. Why would they listen to you, your vote is a given.
Why do you think I voted for the people I contacted? Can you provide some evidence please?
All right I’m sorry I’m attacking you personally. You’re fine, I just think you’re misguided and your views are wrong.
Yes, I know your think my view that people should care more about Palestinian genocide than American politics are wrong. I’m just not sure why.
Fuck these people, really. What did they think would happen with Trump?
They don’t care. They have never cared. This thread makes that abundantly clear.
They’re narcissists. They only care about how they look.
They thought he would pull support for Ukraine and let Russia keep what they’d taken.
After all, that’s what they asked him to do.
The same thing that happened under Biden, and would have happened under Harris.
And now we would not be surprised if Trump builds some beach resorts there once the Palestinians are gone. I hope you are happy with your endorsement of Trump.
There is no need to quibble anything. Biden’s warcrimes are utterly documented and the fact his opposition were even worse tells you everything you need to know about america as a whole.
So then maybe let’s not even worry about which American politician is worse and worry about the Palestinians.
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Why? The only thing we could do was vote and otherwise pressure the politicians in charge of making decisions. Now that the ones in charge are ultra pro genocide, there’s no shame, no accountability, no way of influencing them at all. All the activist voters on here were warned, but we’re beyond the point of no return. There’s no justice to be had. Y’all ran anyone with a shred of morals out of office and now all we have is ghouls. They will get away with everything and then change history to make themselves the heroes. The Palestinians will be lucky if anyone even remembers they existed a hundred years from now.
The only hope left is that the Republicans manage to fuck up their own plans somehow.
Aren’t there fewer gazans being exterminated now than 1 month ago?
God damn, I mean technically, you’re right.
Yeah and at this rate, soon enough Israel will completely run out of Gazans to exterminate!
I wholeheartedly agree in the anti-genocidal sentiment, and I’ve personally been engaged in protests against it.
An awful lot of those people are russian bots. But it’s not like you can say that on pro Palestinian spaces, because any comments pointing out how delusional protest voting is or how much worse things are getting because of trump will get removed for racism.
How do you propose the voters try to push their representatives to actually represent them, if there’s never a repercussion to the representative?
You won’t, lobbyists will always be louder than voters. It’s a rigged system, but it’s rigged in such a way that you can either fail or fail much harder. Other than that you have protests (which have become a lot more dangerous) and doing a Luigi. But noone cares about a few people not voting out of protest, turnout is extremely low anyway.
No shit I’ve been called Igor just to point out americans shouldn’t arm genocide. How is that not racist? I’m not even russian.
when utilitarianism seems less burdensome than whatever twisted knot the “genocide joe” folks have to tell themselves justify their actions, you gotta wonder about the choices they made.
when utilitarianism seems less burdensome
How burdensome was it to watch 40K Palestinians die at the hands of weapons made, and supplied, by the US, and fully supported by Biden?
Genocide Joe was actually doing ethnic cleansing, so far trump is only talking about it
Edit: I guess trump is actually doing it too, they’re both equally bad on this
Oh, did his administration stop supplying weapons to Israel?
So you agree that supplying weapons to Israel for the last 15 months was ethnic cleansing. You agree that Biden and Trump are both pro-ethnic cleansing
“Clean out that whole thing.”
He doesn’t even pretend it’s something other than ethnic cleansing. Just literally “clean out” the Palestinians.
And we’re powerless to stop him.
And once again the media is creating apologetic headlines. I guess they want people to only realize the leopards ate their faces when they only have their Lying Eyes left.
“Does no one in the media know what it’s called when you ‘clean out’ an ethnic group and expel them from their land?” one commenter asked, adding: “Trump Calls for Ethnic Cleansing of Palestinians From Gaza,” that is your headline.”
Here is my bOtHsIdEs Pikachu face. :|
I’m sure Kamala was going to be exactly the same. /s
I’m sure Kamala was going to be exactly the same. /s
Pretty much the only difference is she wouldn’t say it out loud, frankly. She clearly stated she had Israel’s back, regardless of what anyone said. I mean, look at how she reacted to people stating, to her face, that they could not vote for her, due to that.
And what did she do? She doubled down on her support for the genocide.
Fuck off with this nonsense. Kamala would literally push the same policies, just like Joe did. The only difference would be that she’d use vague and hollow language to keep a pretense of humanity up so people could continue pretending that they themselves are not contributing to this atrocity. Your naive picture of mainstream Democrats is why that party continues to be as ineffective as it’s been for 50 years. I welcome all the neoliberal Lemmy downvotes. Assholes.
Interesting how you’re more interested in condemning Biden and Harris for this thing they didn’t do than Trump for doing it. In fact, you seem very unbothered by the actual plan here because the Democrats weren’t involved.
Russian propaganda is a powerful thing.
I can’t even blame Russia at this point. These people seriously do not give a shit about this genocide apart from the political points it can score them.
Go to hexbear’s mutual_aid community, look at the posts there, and tell me again how much more .world cares about palestinians
ROFL! Hexbear.
Go, look
What does Hexbear have to do with anything?
In fact, you seem very unbothered by the actual plan here because the Democrats weren’t involved.
The difference is? Trump didn’t lie about it, he said, outright this is what he was going to do. Harris planned to do the exact same thing, but with a pride flag, and it would have been a woman making the bombs being dropped onto kids.
You also seem very unbothered by this plan.
I will think back to threads like this every time I wonder why Democrats never achieve anything meaningful and the country continues to lurch toward fascism. You all seem to be more interested in team sports than actually having principles and expectations for your own party.
The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump. Their reason doesn’t matter, they’re fascism-enabling Trump supporters in every way that matters.
If you didn’t vote, or if you didn’t vote for Kamala, you helped Trump get elected. That’s not politics, it’s math.
The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump.
I’m a leftist, and I do not, nor have ever, supported Trump. I just didn’t support the other genocider, either. Because I have principles that I stand on, one of which is “Never give support to genociders”.
I’m glad you feel good about yourself. Your inaction is part of the problem.
Your inaction is part of the problem.
Why isn’t Harris’ inaction part of the problem? I mean, she could have said,“You know, genocide is bad, and when I take office, I will end all support for Israel until they agree to an immediate ceasefire?”
The “leftists” on here literally supported Trump
We fucking didn’t. Not voting for Kamala isn’t supporting Trump, it’s just rejecting genocide. If democrats passed progressive policy and stopped a genocide, they might have had a chance, but they’d rather lose the elections to a fascist than actually pushing progressive policy.
There were no actual leftists on the ballot in every state that campaigned beyond the election year. Kamala was the realistic option. It’s perfectly reasonable to be conflicted about voting for someone because they’re the lesser of two evils, but there’s nothing rational thinking a leftist or faux leftist candidate that only shows up during election years had a realistic chance of winning.
It’s perfectly reasonable to be conflicted about voting for someone because they’re the lesser of two evils,
There is no “conflicted” on whether or not I should support a genocider. How well do you sleep at night, knowing you supported a genocider?
Exactly, so you make it clear to the democrats in the meanwhile: either you move to the left, or eat shit. They decided to do the latter. Now start blaming them for the loss and move towards organising labour and political orgs
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That everyone who disagrees with me is a “neoliberal”?
No, just that anyone who doesn’t cut off someone for being a genocider is a neoliberal ghoul.
Centrists are suddenly unhappy now that trump is implementing their only policy for them.
The day Trump actually tempers a decision based on the feedback the world gives him, I’ll eat my hat. He doesn’t give a shit about this kind of criticism. He’s right. Everyone else is wrong. One of the few genuine stable geniuses in this world.
Ethnic “clearing”
Ethical and Ethnic share a lot of letters, I’m sure that means they mean the same thing.
