If you advocate for public transport, then you can provide these people with an adequate alternative to driving.
More interested in bike paths but trams and trains are cool too
Why not both? Trams and bike paths can work really well together.
Yeah both would be fine
Yeah that’s never happening in America if big auto has anything to do with it
Sure, but outside of meme countries we can actually do this kinda thing.
The old dude driving slow in the morning probably doesn’t want himself to be driving at rush hour, either. Maybe if we had some kind of system where professionals planned and implemented a ride sharing systems, perhaps with planned routes and really big cars that lots of people could sit in? Maybe we even put it on rails so it uses less energy while moving?
My country has this and better, no difference.
They also love shopping during the busiest times I’m the weekend. They just love wasting working people’s precious free time.
I think we’re all shocked you’re not already retired, Mickey. ;)
Always interesting on social media sites trying to guess if the poster is male/female and how old
What’s the Lemmy equivalent of driving around real slow?
Maybe posting 90s memes?
I would say boomer memes.
You have no more right to use public roads than anyone else.
Correct, but if you can do shopping at any time, you should aspire to do it when there are as few people as possible. That goes for everyone and it also works for most non group activities, such as driving
One of my favourite things about being retired is the ability to go to the shops in the middle of the day, when it’s quiet. No crowds. Parking. No rush. Bliss!
I work mostly evenings and weekends and being able to run errands when it’s not busy and do chores when flatmates aren’t around makes up for it.
5pm at the restaurant. Retirees and families with little kids.
Having been a 2nd and 3rd shifter most of my adult life, I miss going shopping in the middle of the night when hardly anyone was there.
Even better, aspire to not use a car. Commute via bike or public transport.
Everyone has better things to do then sit in traffic, and its always tempting to blame someone else - eg. some old guy that you wish would have gone shopping at a different time. But if you are on the road in your car then you are traffic. You’re holding people up. You’re delaying people. And as the previous person said, you have no more right to use public roads than anyone else. So rather than wishing and hoping that other people will do something different, take initiative to do something different yourself.
“I’ve done my shopping at 11 am on saturdays for the last 40 years and even though the shops are packed and the selection is poor, I’m not going to consider moving to 10 on Monday instead”
It’s tractors and some guy regularly riding a horse and cart round my way.
Lmao sounds like where I grew up in Mississippi. Farmers everywhere, but quite a few Mennonites and Amish too
Retire? Fucking hilarious!
Get rid of your car. Problem solved.
Replaced with what? There’s no infrastructure here.
I don’t have any problem with someone driving under the speed limit as long its within the legal amount. My problem is buttplugs. Buttplugs are creatures who crawl up someones ass and refuse to pass. They prevent the people behind them from legally passing and just sit there for mile after mile.
A mutation of the buttplug is the plugipede. Where you have mulitple buttplugs all up each others ass and content to follow one another at less than two car lengths apart.
I never blame the guy going five under at the front.
butt plugs with LED headlights, no less
Not that it’s ever safe to follow so close, but there’s also the subset of slow drivers who camp the passing lanes and prevent passing from taking place. Regardless of how fast you drive, if someone is behind you, move to the outside to let them pass.
Yeah, they do that as well. On my daily commute there are two, three lane passing zones going either way. They will often do that as well. Most of my commute is on a two lane highway.
I have never commuted by car, but I plan to get a car when I retire so I can drive around in the mornings.
a bunch of old geezers cruising the local ‘strip’ from 7-9am just like we used to back in high school at night on the weekends.
nothing makes a tired annoyed version of me happier before dawn than going extra slow just to piss off the asshole riding my ass with LED headlights lighting up my whole cabin
*to clarify, the situation I am talking about is where I’ll be doing my usual up-to-20% over the speed limit minding my own business on my way to wherever in the morning, and some jackass with LED headlights at the same height as my face comes up behind me and rides my ass for several kilometers despite multiple passing opportunities. when that shit happens, my dreary morning just got interesting and I have something to keep me entertained
I usually just pull over when possible and let them get ahead of me. Not worth the drama.
I give them the chance to pass by moving all the way right in the lane and slowing down at passing opportunities. after a few missed opportunities, I’ll fuck with them for the entertainment.
but yes, not always worth it.
While some people do tailgate people that go the normal speed, if you’re going “extra slow”, you’re the problem I’m afraid. 🤷🏻♂️
If you tailgate me I will slow down to give you the appropriate following distance. I do not want to be rear ended if I have to come to a sudden stop. If you have a problem with this I invite you to give three seconds of distance or pass.
I’d also allow people to pass if they come up behind me, but if I’m going slower than general traffic I’m not going to randomly slow down even more to piss people off, that’s just silly.
I don’t do it to piss people off. I do it because their behavior is dangerous and I would like to keep my insurance premium as low as possible. If I can’t see, or if the person behind me is putting me in a position where suddenly slowing down would be unnecessarily dangerous, I must slow down to the extent the law allows until I can pull off to the side. Motherfuckers around where I live tailgate like it is their hobby and will do it on the freeway with multiple open passing lanes.
give it another read, you have your order of events backwards
And also ignore pedestrians, even though they just stared in my soul while waiting them to stop (but they just slowed down and didn’t stopped)
I just retired, and my wife still complains that I drive too fast. I’m joining a gym next week and getting back into writing and fermenting, and so won’t have much time to annoy Frank Freeway during his commute from hell.
It’s even worse on public transport. At least where I live. They have the whole day available but decide to use the buses between 7 and 9 in the morning and 15-17 afternoon when most people go to/from work/school
Perhaps public transit is there to help the public get around and you should be advocating for higher availability, not lower ridership
My issue is that they could literally take the bus 30 minutes later and be alone on the bus. It’s just fascinating that they use them at a time of highest ocupancy.
Maybe they spend too much time alone and enjoy being in the throng on the bus.
Who knows.
They may have an appointment early in the morning, a time slot that may be harder for a young person to fullfill. Maybe they have a scheudled event to be at, many of which start at the same time as business opening hours. Maybe they just want to get to the store when it opens, get their shopping done, and be able to enjoy the rest of the day at their own pace.
Yep. There are a lot of people out there, each with their own lives and schedules. Work isn’t the only thing in life people have to deal with, and responsibilities don’t end when one retires.
Maybe the lonely old people like to see other people.
Have you considersd that they may still be working due to poor wages and a lack of social safety nets?
Nope. Because they would not have the free red ticket for retired people
Sure, but if they’re boomers and still couldn’t make it, I’m not sure what the issue was. The generation that took everything and then pulled the ladder up behind them should be stable in the modern day.
I’m really not trying to be an asshole here, but my experience with this is my girlfriend’s dad. A boomer who lives in his car. He lost his six figure job in the late 90s and then did nothing. He made no effort. He was a horrible father. My girlfriend’s mother died and he STILL never picked his life back up. And now he’s just become a nuisance in our lives. I have absolutely no sympathy for people like that.
Whereas my parents, also boomers of the same age, are retired and looking at finding their final home. All you had to do was keep doing what you’re doing.
Whereas us, now, that’s not good enough, anymore.
It is very hard for me for feel sympathy for the generation that got everything, when my friends and I are struggling to exist, and with decent jobs.
Major “Main Character Syndrome” vibes. Other people have their own lives and their own reasons, ya know?
Is it though? I am not saying they are not allowed to use them or anything. I just wonder why they use them when everyone else does as well. I have taken buses outside those times and not many retirees or old people take them. If I had the whole day I would probably not take the most crowded bus and take the one that is almost empty.
Strike up a conversation and find out how their day is going. Maybe you’ll get the answers you seek.
There are many reasons that people would use a particular schedule. Congestion is only one, and not even a big one usually.
A far bigger reason is to be done with it so they can get on with their day, whatever that might be. That way the errand(s) are done and won’t interrupt them or weigh on their minds.
If I’m late to work I can’t pay their pension.
So your lateness is a problem they are supposed to solve for you?
It’s certainly something they could choose to be considerate about.
