He’s never getting out of there alive.

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        I remember a video right after he was taken into custody of inmates yelling out the windows about “free luigi” and “luigis conditions are terrible” of course they love him. He killed a greedy healthcare CEO, you could argue he did the world a favor.

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          I hope every inmate makes it clear that Luigi is cool with them and that anyone who does something similar will receive a warm welcome, that might make things interesting.

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    The truth is that he may never see daylight. They want to make an example of him lest others get similar ideas.

    People with nothing to lose have little reason not to follow his example and make the greedy fuckers in this society pay.

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    This isn’t really abnormal. He’s accused of murder, and a pretty high profile one at that. It’s not uncommon in the slightest for people accused of high profile crimes and people accused of murder to be held in custody pending trial.

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      To clarify: There are only two actual reasons that you can legally be held without bail. The first reason is that you’re considered a flight risk. The second reason is that you’re considered a danger to yourself or others if let out of prison before your trial.

      For the first reason, this basically means that the courts don’t believe you would return for your trial, and would flee instead. Maybe you’re rich enough that you can afford to lose the bail money. Maybe you have international connections and can disappear to another country. Maybe you just have a history of fleeing. The Adjuster is 100% without a doubt a flight risk. He fled authorities and evaded a nationwide manhunt for an entire week. And since Luigi is accused of being The Adjuster, he is considered a flight risk.

      For the second reason, this is basically the court going “you were accused of something so violent or egregious that we don’t trust you to avoid doing something similar again while out on bail.” This is most often used with cases like school shooters, serial killers, serial rapists, serial burglars, etc… Basically, the prosecutor argues that if they’re let out, they’ll just fall right back into their old ways again. But a scummy pro-corporation prosecutor could construe The Adjuster as a violent extremist who is likely to strike again.

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    I think they’re going to try and find a way to kill him to send a strong example as to what happens to people in his place.

    But then I hope it does happen because it’ll only make him a martyr.

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    Why do we tolerate it

    The person who ceaselessly bashes their head against a brick wall hoping to knock it down will accomplish one thing, and it’s not knocking the wall down

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      Even if you wanted to break him out, he’s here:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Detention_Center,_Brooklyn

      Good fucking luck.

      There’s simply nothing to do but wait for his case.

      Nothing to do but get the prisons blueprints, have said blueprints tattooed onto body but covertly hidden within a being design. Then commit a serious but non violent crime to land yourself in the prison and then prison break

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        The premise of Michael’s tattoos was so much cooler than the actual execution and need for them. His tattoos were basically “here’s a tiny screwdriver shape in this giant demon”, “here’s a number that I could just have remembered but instead put it on a clock”, and so on.

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        1. it’s not for naught, it’s for support. if you think support is useless, that’s like, your opinion, man. lots of people disagree.
        2. re: it’s hopeless - counterpoint: “‘you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.’ --wayne gretski” --michael scott
        3. no one will be surprised pikachu, everyone knows that there’s only a slim to zero chance of a not guilty verdict. who doesn’t like to root for the underdog sometimes?
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    They would absolutely not allow him to die in prison.

    They want to make a public example of him in order to show the proletariat they are the masters.

    They will find a way to find him guilty and they will execute him.

    They will make sure we all know it.

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    Why are people generally in prison? Usually because they’re violent, drug addicted or at odds with the status quo.

    Luigi is in prison accused of killing a man responsible for getting people hooked on drugs, marginalizing the already marginalized and poor, and ruining the lives of millions.

    I think the inmates would be more likely to treat him like a hero.

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        The guards and administration want him alive.

        People like Epstein die in prison because showing up in court runs the risk of taking down powerful people. People like Luigi always have their day to be dragged through the mud in court before they rot away forever in jail, with random reminders that they’re still alive and suffering.

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          Part of me wonders what discovery would come up with if they got access to united health’s database. If they want to go with the argument that it was justified; they probably could get at least some limited access.

          Generally theyre not allowed to go on fishing expeditions, but they are allowed to seek documents and data directly pertaining to their defense (like a pattern of criminal malpractice.)

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    I mean he’s accused of premeditated murder, has the resources to flee, and I’m pretty sure “they” want a spectacle to make an example.

    they wont let him get shanked by accident, and they wont Epstein him until they have their spectacle

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    I mean that’s what jail is for.

    Think about it this way. If a young adult (like 18 year old) kills a parent as revenge for getting abused as a kid, do you think this person would just get to move freely before trial?

    Sure, I’d also sympathize with this young adult, and the parent deserve to die for being an abusive piece of shit, but that doesn’t mean this person can just go wandering around the city.

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      That person needs a jury trial ASAP so society can excuse the act as self defense.

      A lot of Catholic clergy out there that needs to be dealt with.

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        That’s the problem, the courts are stacked with like thousands of cases. The problem is not “Why did we arrest Luigi Mangione?”, that’s not the problem, the problem is: “Why the fuck is the courts so slow?”

        We need like more judges to process all the cases quickly. Like maybe need to double the number of judges, and perhaps have petit juries that rule on serveral similar cases at ones, since juries take forever to convene.

        A lot of Catholic clergy out there that needs to be dealt with.

        Maybe, but I don’t think there should be a “You can kill whoever as long as its a bad person” broad exception. Its should be a case-by-case basis. If you pass a law that makes that okay, sure, you can get more Luigis, but I’m sure the number of Trans people and PoC being lynched also goes up.

        It’s a double edge sword.

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          Lack of prosecution of the pedo clergy in the US and other countries is not a court issue… It is a political issue. Where pedos in government are protecting pedos in church. Look how swift was regime response when one of their “officers” got whacked lol so clearly system can work when it needs.

          I am not gonna advocate to kill them but if somebody kills one, I sure won’t drop a tear. The regime clearly dont care to do enforce laws. the same way I don’t cry about brain the parasite Thompson being blessed by whoever did the job.

          Good people die every day, and I have limited compassion.

          As for societal consequences… We are already past the point of having any societal conhesion, the Elite S wanted this way. They do violence against plebs every day so…

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            Lack of prosecution of the pedo clergy

            You misunderstand.

            I’m talking about: If you start legalizing vigilantism like Luigi Mangione, you also embolden far-right terrorism.

            Luigi Mangione should get accquitted as an exception, but shouldn’t be the norm.

            The norm should be predatory health insurance CEOs all going to prison.

            As for the sex abuse in regligion, that’s separate from the issue I was taking about earlier, which is the juidicial courts system being overload; what you are taking about is the prosecutorial misconduct/corruption of the procecutor (and the police) being involved in the cover up of a major scandal.

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              I don’t think anyone is advocating for legalization of killing CEOs then. What people are saying, we will look the other way in this case and similar cases because this a class war.

              Same people won’t support brain dead vigilantism. Dead ceo with out collateral damage is why luigi has broad public support because who ever did it. Did it right.

              I still not following judicial system is over load of point here…

              They have no problem harassing poors via the court system but any real justice, sorry we busy 🤡

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    How do you know that to be true? What evidence do you have to support the hypothesis?

    Even if the outcome you fear to be true comes to pass, that will not mean you were correct today.

    Without evidence to support the hypothesis, you’re doing nothing more complicated than guessing the result of flipping a coin.

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    True. I think even if he gets off, they’ll kill him. Remember all the whistleblower deaths in 2024? Like that.

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    Maybe because killing unarmed civilians is wrong. Maybe because starting armed violence is wrong. Maybe because the number of CEOs didn’t decrease and healthcare isn’t getting any better.

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      Anecdotal observation I received from a doctor’s office indicates there may be some change in the insurance industry…

      Last month I saw a surgeon who does not take insurance, but her office helps people get all the pre-authorizations done to file an out-of-network claim. They told me that of the codes they bill, there’s one that used to have a 50/50 chance of getting approved. But after 12/6/24 they see it come back approved every time.

      Without more data to back this up I recognize it’s not enough to say anything for sure, but this does point to insurance companies more broadly approving claims.

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        I’m glad you at least admit there is no significance without actual data to back the claim up. My guess is that denial rates are only getting worse with the prevalence of AI in form assessment and documentation industries, and especially with federal funding cuts and freezes to insurers.

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      Science demands rigorous testing of all three of those hypotheses before making a conclusion.

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        I present to you 15,000 years of human history. 40,000 if you count the Neanderthal extinction.

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            According to historians such as François Furet, the new government gave themselves unlimited power which was immediately abused by it. Only about two thirds of men gained the right to vote, favoring wealth, and none of the women, and the King was still in power. After the second round of revolution France split into three factions fighting internally which led directly into the “Reign of Terror.”

            And then Emperor Napoleon.

            But yes, you could say the French Revolution had some beneficial long term results, now how about you defend the 200+ wars that France has been in over the last two millenium as well?

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              Liberty ain’t free dear and boomers being pathetic bootlickers is why the CEO had the to be deposed.

              Unchecked and unaccountable elites is how social unrest happens.

              Or is you down being fucked over as long as we keep “peace”?

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                What a complete non-response to my comment. You really fought this battle without fighting, Sunzu.

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                  You got a bootlicker mind set: can’t fight elites because there will be violence

                  No shit sherlock, nobody wants this but if the elites can’t rule properly that’s what happens.

                  This is poliscie 101