A bill to ban the use of the mineral in public water passed the Florida House 88-27. It now awaits Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature.
Lawmakers in Florida gave final passage to a bill to ban fluoride in public water systems Tuesday, with the state House voting 88-27.
SB 700, also known as the Florida Farm Bill, doesn’t mention the word “fluoride,” but it would effectively ban the chemical compound by preventing “the use of certain additives in a water system.” The bill awaits Gov. Ron DeSantis’ signature.
If DeSantis, a Republican, signs the bill, Florida will become the second state to ban fluoride from water supplies.
How can the bill not say fluoride specifically but mentions “certain additives”. Surely it must list what those certain additives are? Odd.
They are deporting teeth too
Yanks love to stereotype Brits as having bad teeth when statically your teeth have more cavities and removals (our dentistry focuses on health over cosmetics). Hopefully shit like this can fully kill that off that stereotype.
That’s only because we have states like Alabama skewing our statistics
It’s also a diet thing and a result of people damaging their teeth with whitening and cheap veneers.
The majority of people I know with dental issues couldn’t afford to have minor things fixed so they turned into major things.
Dental insurance is a joke and lots of people don’t even get that joke.
No it’s because your bread has so much sugar the rest of the world would call it cake.
Fluorida
Well, don’t need fluoride if you don’t have teeth
What a stupid and shitty timeline we’re living in. Holy shit.
Florida was always stupid. Anything they do, will not surprise me.
Leave Florida if you can. Especially if you have or are expecting children. Moving isn’t always possible, but if you live in Florida know that your state is actively trying to hurt you.
You know who doesn’t need Fluoride in their drinking water? People with dentures.
Checkmate whipper snappers.
You don’t need municipal water to be fluoridated if you just want your kids to have fluoridation. When I was a kid, we didn’t have fluoridation available in our municipal water, and so my folks got themselves a water cooler and ordered delivery of five gallon bottles of fluoridated water for it. Mom made a point of making milk with it from powdered milk so that everyone got their fluoridation. You can still get those bottles.
I mean, I’m sure that the great bulk of people aren’t going to do that, and that it’s going to lead to dental problems down the line, but it’s not like an individual can’t get ahold of the water if they want it. Costs more per unit of water volume to have it delivered than to pipe it in, but then, you’re not drinking all that much volume of water, either; most residential water use goes to things other than drinking.
EDIT: Plus, if you have a water cooler, you also can have chilled water. We didn’t have a powered cooler; ours was just an unpowered, gravity-fed dispenser, but all of the modern-day ones I’ve run into in offices have a chiller.
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=water+dispenser+cooler
If I lived in (tropical) Florida, I’d probably want to have chilled water handy…
Done even need that.
I went to a rural school and every week on Tuesdays we took 10 minute shifts to go rinse our mouths with a fluoride mouth wash. 1 gallon jug with a pump and Dixie cups. Lasted most of a school year.
Yet another expense lumped onto American citizens that is entirely avoidable
Not to mention infeasible for people already struggling to afford food and other basic necessities. Which means they will struggle to afford the dental care from not being able to afford privatized fluoride.
Its all a trap to push people in poverty into deeper states of vulnerability, eventually prison, and therefore free labor for the state
Isn’t it great that our teeth aren’t part of our health insurance?
You’re kinda missing the point. It doesn’t stop at flouride. It doesn’t stop at deregulating manufacturing waste. Nothing in politics is “just one thing” it’s either an up or down trend that continues until people force change.
Being able to circumvent their measures doesn’t mean they aren’t actively trying to increase harms for residents.
You don’t leave Florida because you want flouride in your water. You leave Florida because it’s the type of state that would ban flouride in the water.
Ban chlorine and chloramine in the water too! The microorganisms will strengthen your immune system. Just like Haiti. :)
Unironcally yes, it shouldn’t take much convincing that a substance as dangerous as chlorine infamously known for being used as a chemical weapon shouldn’t be in drinking water when UV sterilization exists and is proven.
Man, just wait until you hear about this awful chemical called dihydrogen monoxide. It’s used as an industrial solvent, cleaning agent, and all other kinds of destructive things, and they put it in your food! This shit can kill you if you breathe in too much, yet they put it in our food?!?!1?1
Is your argument that chlorine is as safe to consume as water?
No, just that your dAnGeRoUs ChEmIcAl assertion is FUD and spreading ignorance. But considering you ‘unironically yes’-ed a comment referencing Haiti and how the microorganisms will strengthen your immune system, I’m entirely unsurprised.
As another person put it ‘the dose is the poison’. Sure, chlorine is poisonous in large doses. But so is water.
Ban sodium chloride too!
Is your argument that chlorine is as safe to consume as salt?
a substance as dangerous as chlorine
Water is often said to be the “element of life”, and we need oxygen to live. But if you add one oxygen atom to a water molecule you end up with H2O2, or hydrogen peroxide, which is deadly.
This is the thing that the majority of people don’t understand about chemistry. Just because one chemical (water is a chemical, btw) has the same word in its name as another chemical that’s known to be highly toxic doesn’t mean they’re both toxic.
Chemistry is insanely complex and we are entirely unable to evaluate the toxicity of a chemical just by its name (without prior knowledge).
Except that chlorine is highly toxic? Unless there is some other chlorine that i am unaware of that shares the name with regular chlorine that is also used as a disinfectant without being highly toxic.
Does your tap have a UV light in it, or do you think there’s no possibility of bacterial growth between the water processing plant and your house?
Yes it does
Stop being so negative. They’ve clearly given this a lot of thought. At least two to three seconds.
You think chlorine is mostly known for being used as a chemical weapon? Not, you know… Swimming pools?
You’re a good example of why people make bad choices about science related public policy.
First, the poison is in the dose. There’s a big difference between inhaling concentrated chlorine gas and drinking trace quantities.
Second, how do you propose we uv sterilize the water? We’d need to do so at the plant, but also at any holding cisterns. Or were you thinking of retrofit for houses? And not all microorganisms are strongly impacted by UV. It’s tricky to find legitimate research, since the people who sell them say they work great, but what’s out there paints a different picture of efficacy.Are you… are you drinking the pool water?
Does your local government chemically treat cisterns?
I don’t know what to say other than, maybe, poison is poison. You can dilute the dose to levels that won’t have acute affects but that doesn’t mean chemical build up or other toxicity related illnesses cannot occur.
I already edited it to infamously anyways thats what comes to my mind at first when i think of chlorine.
And how would i propose we do this? By living in a country that already does it. Here is the page of my local water provider:
https://www.evides.nl/uw-drinkwater/productieproces/de-zuiveringsprocessen
Daarna maken we het water bacteriologisch betrouwbaar: de hoofddesinfectie. Dit gebeurt door middel van ultraviolet licht (UV).
Then we make the water bacteriologically reliable: the main disinfection. This is done by means of ultraviolet light (UV).
So on whatever way the Netherlands does it seems to work out.
Being used to this type of water when i go on vacation it really smells like im drinking swimming pool water.
The Netherlands also chlorinates water, just not to the degree some other countries do. The chlorine is what keeps the water safe during transport and storage after it has been sterilized.
mustard gas is not the same as chlorinated water, or even bleach and ammonia. its a different compound.
Chlorine gas was actually used in world war 1. It’s still a massive stretch to invoke that in relation to water treatment.
It’s like invoking water boarding to say we shouldn’t have a water supply.
I was not talking about Mustard gas but chlorine gas, according to wikipedia first deployed on masse during tbe Second battle of Ypres by the germans.
Bring back asbestos, Florida! And leaded gasoline!
And gas station bath salts!
When are they going to ban dihydrogen monoxide?
More like DEI Hydrogen Monoxide
You’ve just doomed us all.
They probably should in some parts of the U.S. right? It’s that badly contaminated.
Dentist lobby keeps winning
I think it’s more a case of “Don’t be a surgeon in a county where surgery is illegal because surgery isn’t in the Bible” situation.
I hope this is a joke
It is
Can’t be too sure these days lol I’ve noticed in particular a ton of lemmygrad/hexbear/etc. folks showing up in other instances starting all kinds of shit the last week or two. I don’t know what’s up with the surge. I’ve had to stick to my local more or my blood pressure skyrockets lol
Take iodine out of salt while you’re at it.
Let’s bring the gioter look back!
Don’t worry, y’all, they’re probably gonna make lead pipes great again, too!
edit - that way, you can all look and act like wild bill from the green mile! isn’t that GREAT?
A Florida Man in every household!
second?
Who the fuck was the first?
Utah
Is there a lore reason why Utah isn’t used as a nuclear weapons testing area?
Probably the nuclear test ban treaty
Ah, coulda guessed it’d be them. Only place I lived where I couldn’t find redeeming qualities.
So if they don’t use the word “fluoride,” does that mean the purpose is that the bill is open to interpretation depending on what they politically need at the time?
Or will the Republicans pass this bill and claim victory, but will actually just leave fluoride in the water?
