L I N U X
1000 percent. I did this for myself a year ago and haven’t looked back.
I did 6 months back to linux mint. The experience is smooth
Fix:
open this site: https://schneegans.de/windows/unattend-generator/
check your options that you like
download your xml
download win 11 iso
put on stick (with rufus) with the downloaded xml file
install win 11
profit
I’ve had issues with the installer from 24H2 for my unattended. I had to use the previous versions installer and installed the 24H2 ISO.
I put this in another thread: It’s not a big deal. They’re removing the bypassnro.cmd script, which is just this:
@echo off
reg add HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\OOBE /v BypassNRO /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f
shutdown /r /t 0
You can still use shift-F10 at the same point, type those two lines (not the @ECHO OFF), and it will achieve the same result.
I will copypaste your comment next time people complain Linux is hard to learn.
It’s actually so bad lol. Idk what Microsoft has against
-forargsflags but it’s fuckn annoyingIt’s also incredibly inconsistent, at least now that they’re pushing more and more towards powershell.
What, as a delimiter? Even some FOSS software uses spaces.
Whoops, meant flags
if someone says linux is hard to learn, that person isn’t making regestry edits.
That said, windows used to be intuitive, but they peaked with xp and it’s been a downhill slide since.
So you’re telling me 2% of new Window’s users won’t be forced to make an account? Neat!
This is not about the technically savvy. The populace is being conditioned into not owning what they purchase. This will in turn make everyone’s life worse.
Ultimately this change, while frustrating, probably doesn’t change the initial value for those who fit these two categories:
- Needs Windows
- Cares about their privacy
These people were already going to go out of their way to use the OOBE bypass. They still will. This is no more effort thanbit already was.
Microsoft crossed the line already by disallowing offline account creation through their default setup process.
A bitch to remember compared to the bypassnro though.
Well, who cares. I’m never installing Windows again anyway.
You know, if you copied those three lines into a text file, then saved it as bypassnro.cmd, you’ll have solved that problem.
start ms-cxh:localonly
upvoted for visibility.
Its not a big deal the same way cancelling adobe subscription is not a big deal.
I have to have Windows, a VM at least, for reasons.
A nameless install, decrapified with Chris Titus’ decrapifier, installer and streamliner script is actually decent
I mean, not really. You had to open command prompt anyways. The command is just a bit different now. There’s no monetary penalty here, just a few more keystrokes.
Its shity corpo behavior to force users generate more profits for shareholders. It is no benefit to anyone but ms.
Seems an alternative, easier method was found: https://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/an-even-better-microsoft-account-bypass-for-windows-11-has-already-been-discovered
Relevant part:
But fret not, as a new, perhaps better bypass has already been discovered that still uses the command prompt (which you can open with Shift + F10) and makes skipping the Microsoft Account sign-in step a total breeze.
Discovered by user @witherornot1337 on X, typing “start ms-cxh:localonly” into the command prompt during the Windows 11 setup experience will allow you to create a local account directly without needing to skip connecting to the internet first.
Shit like that has to be a leak, idk how else you’d just pull that out of one’s ass.
“The bypass uses a CXH (cloud experience host) URI (Uniform Resource Identifier) string during the OOBE to invoke the hidden local account setup screen.” this had to be data mined or something yeah.
Are people shocked that windows keeps removing things that allow the os to be usable and debloated?
Copilot recording your screen will be a non optional feature before win11 is over.
This change ensures that all users exit setup with internet connectivity
And what if someone doesn’t have internet connectivity?
no computer for you
But then how we can put advertisements in the Start Menu, and spy on them once our Project2025 overlords want the general populous to be fully committed to extremist christianity 24/7?
More and more people just need to switch to Linux and grow the userbase so more and more proprietary software create Linux builds just like how Maya and Davinci Resolve are available for Linux. If your computer is a web browser, you should be on Linux. Firefox, Chrome, Edge are all on Linux
If you’re a casual photo editor, Darktable. A casual photo editor can probably be well served with GIMP or Krita. If you’re a web browser and digital painter Krita. If you edit videos, Davinci Resolve and Kdenlive. Office - OnlyOffice, Libre office, WPS Office
Or you can always pay for Wine and help it develop. Usually popular applications work well.
A few weeks ago I helped one of my client’s employees set up their brand new laptop, which came with Win11 installed, of course. They just need it for basic work stuff and there’s no chance in hell anything other than Windows is a viable option here.
We work remotely so I would help them get set up to a point where they could at least share their screen to me, or I could take over via remote access myself, to finish the installation process. I just needed to guide them through the steps “blind” for a short while. Easy peasy, right?
So we go through the Windows 11 first time setup together. All seems to go ok until Windows asks them to log into their MS account or create one. No problem, we should be able to do that, right? Only that we can’t. We’re connected to the WiFi, etc., yet they get some generic ass error message like “Sorry, something went wrong” and that’s that.
Ok, so we can’t log in with an online account. Let’s try offline as a fallback! We set the username, password… “Sorry, something went wrong” again. We try to guess maybe it’s the password, it doesn’t match! Or it’s not strong enough! So we try all these different things for ages. Again, we’re getting no feedback whatsoever from Windows. Just “Something went wrong fuck you lol”.
I don’t use Windows myself, I’ve been a Linux user for years now, I don’t have any freaking clue how to remotely diagnose a vague issue that literally prevents them from getting the laptop to a functional state. So I Google the problem and the recommended answer is to run this magic “bypassnro” command. It will cut all the mandatory online account bullshit, move straight to a reliable offline account setup screen, and allow us to, you know, actually do work? And it worked!
If I hadn’t had that command at my disposal, that I was forced to use by Microsoft’s broken ass setup UX, I would’ve probably spent twice or three times longer coaching my non-tech-savvy client through booting into fail safe mode and doing all kinds of arcane sysadmin shit that I don’t even have to ever think about in Linux. All this just to get them into the desktop, on a brand new laptop.
And Microsoft have now decided to take it away. Nice one.
I was trying to set up win 11 laptop for my mom and ran into S mode, that took like an hour to walk my elderly mom through the steps to disable it so I could remote in. Finally gave up and grab a MS approved remote desktop app to remote in a disable the S mode, its s for Shit. Of course the other remote desktop app crashed. Sorry family, no more windows PCs for you
You could’ve just had your mom install linux and you wouldn’t have to remote in since theres nothing to do. Everything just works.
So happy that I switched to linux. Microsoft has been one of the main forces of enshitification of the world. Fuck em. I cant play a bunch of games with my friends anymore, and I have to learn a few new CAD programs, which is like 10 thousand hours of work that I am flushing down the toilet. Worth it.
Apple does this.
Microsoft is now doing this.
I wonder how long until Google start doing it with Android 🤔
This future is so fucking dystopian
You can still very easily use macOS without an Apple ID or iCloud account, actually. You lose out on iMessage, FaceTime and the App Store, basically. But that’s about it. And they don’t nag you about it ever again unless you try to send an iMessage or what have you.
On iOS and Android it’s effectively a requirement though, because App Store / Google Play. Phone is not too useful if you can’t install any apps.
Agree. On iOS, if you don’t login with an Apple ID, you can’t really install apps. On Android though you can just use F-Droid to install apps just fine.
True, but realistically for most people the lack of Google Play is a non starter. Unless you’re really technical and committed to FOSS, you’re going to need every day apps in there.
IMO the biggest issue on mobile is not even the stores but the fact that both platforms are so tightly integrated with the cloud and the account signed into the OS. Again, if you’re an ordinary user, you can barely do anything without it being tied to your Google account or whatever. Everything from maps to notes to music, it’s all tied up in that.
The future is bright on Linux
Sadly, no linux phones that are actually usable.
Yeah, its fucking absurd. Closest option is probably a fairphone right now. They allow a bunch of degoglified options of android and a few linux options too.
My mobile OS of choice is currently Lineageos for Microg. Makes all my apps work and protects me from google as good as possible.
Fairphone works in Europe, but in the US, for example, only Tmobile allows fairphones, the other carriers, while there nothing technological that prevents them fron working, the carriers being being really shit about it. And Tmovile could also become hostile with a flip of a switch. So yea, that’s a huge issue, unless you want a wifi-only device.
I fear in the future, devices will be more strictly locked down because of “terrorism” “scams” “fraud” or “criminial activity” that allows the authorities, worldwide, to control devices even more. Perhaps, computers could also face such lockdowns.
I mean, look at drones. One harmless crash on the US whitehouse lawn triggered a lot of laws restricting them, inclusing the infamous DJI Geo-locking. One terrorisr using encrypted messaging apps to coordinate would allow governments to control our communications even further. All locked bootloaders. Perhaps even locked BIOS/UEFIs. Imagine such a future.
The future looks bleak. It’s not even like 1984, the reality of dystopia is more subtle. People are being stalked by the government, while there are parties are happening all around, that is what dystopia looks like.
China turned QR codes red to restrict people’s movements on the pretenses of Covid. The US trump admin could do the same with QR code IDs to “prove you are a citizen” with checkpoints throughout the country.
(Sorry if it kinda got offtopic, but still kinda relevent)
Amen. Not a non-Android one, at least.
LightPhone is your best bet for a Linux phone if anyone is interested.
Hmmm
I skimmed the webpage and seems like some minimalist phone, which cannot adequetely replace many functions of a modern smartphone.
Arent they already for official OEM ROMs?
No
Really?
I’ve used Samsung and Motorola Android phones, I can set them up offline.
I assume every other OEM is the same.
Well tbh. I never tried to bother circumventing the semi-mandatory google account.
Would be interesting if it is so or not
Just had to set up two pcs for work. Trying to get around the account setup and thinking about all the bullshit that comes with windows I just installed Linux mint.
I’m switching as soon as I finish grad school.
IMO, Windows without a Microsoft account misses out on the least features, when compared to macOS without an Apple ID, iOS without an Apple ID, or Android without a Google accout. Sad that Microsoft keeps making it more and more difficult to bypass logging into a Microsoft accout during installation. But I use Linux anyways (btw)
Android without a Google account is great though
That is nice, but I need the Google Play Services for push notifications on the messaging app that everyone in my country uses. It’s sad, I know. If it weren’t for that I wouldn’t log in to a Google account on my Android phone either.
Yeah OK, that’s fair. It’s really a shame how dependent notifications are on Google. ALl the other things - Mail, Photos, Drive,… - are a lot easier to replace.
I have e os based on murena. At least there they try their best to replace the google play services. If you have an old phone somewhere that does not get updates anymore you could safely try it out
You don’t need to log in to google for any of what you listed to work with google play services.
It is insecure to create one account with username and password during the setup process. The password should always come from your password manager. But you would not have access to your password manager during the installation process.
Please remove this step.
You also would not have access to your password manager when logging into your OS, would you?
While that is true, logging into your OS can also be done via 2FA, namely via a smartcard. It’d offer a similar protection to it, if not better.
Your new account will be online. Can access OneDrive and everything Microsoft Online offers. That means anyone with internet access can try to login to it so it has to be very secure.
Windows Hello can be used for local login. But I agree with you. I would love to be able to access my Keepassxc vault during the login process. But that might be hard to archive so better to use Windows Hello.
Biometrics are not more secure than a good password.
Fair point, but good luck convincing them about it.
Noooooo!!! You can’t just force us to use a Microsoft account!!! You have to allow us to use the bypasserino!!! Noooooooo!!!
Off course, coz they wanna sell user behavior to marketers. This bullshit talks about the improved security are funny. I will never use anything from Microsoft or Google for personal stuff. I have to yet eliminate Apple - in progress.
