• fallowseed@lemmy.world
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      16 hours ago

      the us knew what it was doing and ukraine has learned a hard lesson about having america as an ally. i didn’t know how aggressively hivemind it was around here, its a little more like reddit than one would hope… 90 downvotes, that’s like half the community :p give or take a few bots, i’m sure.

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        16 hours ago

        I think people downvote quite more readily to show disagreement here, not in the least because downvoted comments don’t get buried.

        And, like, seriously. If you can’t even muster thoughts and prayers, if you can’t even muster being indifferent, can’t muster simply not leaving a comment at all, but have to shout your disapproval of Ukraine existing as a sovereign state from the rooftops, you’re an asshole. Unambiguously.

        In this case, probably an attention troll.

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          who wants thoughts and prayers… you want people to observe some fake decorum and misrepresent themselves? are you familiar with nato and previous declarations that russia laid out time and again was a red line not to cross with regard to expansion into ukraine?

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            15 hours ago

            Ukraine didn’t even want to join NATO. Before the invasion, that is. Also Russia doesn’t get to tell other countries which alliances it can and cannot join, what are you, an imperialist or something?

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      1 day ago

      I too love genocidal regimes and war crimes. Can’t get enough of that mass slaughter of civilians and kidnapping of children.

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        Kidnapping? Palestinians dream someone kidnap their kids like that - got them away from warzone with food and shelter.

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            8 hours ago

            That’s a propaganda article.
            They are removing children away from Frontline, something Palestinians can only dream of.

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                I believe america is broke.
                It lost manufacturing advantage and rapidly falling behind china in most areas. Nothing is made here anymore.

                And then - us won’t engage in the open conflict with Russia, it can’t - which means the only option is sending weapons and hopes and prayers.

                This model - the only thing it accomplishes is prolonging the suffering with inevitable ukraine defeat. Same with Taiwan - us can’t win that war and should just let it go.

                I don’t see a point in that. I don’t care about that.
                I say - just cut a deal with Putin and move along.

                This is one of the few things I agree with Trump on.

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                  No, it lets people fight for their homes. It stops russian colonialism. The only thing the US COULD do is beat other countries at war… for now. Cutting a deal with putin is pulling a Chamberlain, russia will keep committing atrocities and anexing others.

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              You’ve lied about me over and over and now you expect me to believe that?

              Still waiting to hear what you’ve done to try to stop the genocide. Other than lie about people online, obviously.

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                6 hours ago

                I called my reps.
                And I advocate online.

                U just banned me under some absolutely fake reason. Go home israelloving troll

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                  5 hours ago

                  Still lying about me I see.

                  And I think we both know why.

                  Looking it up, I see the “fake reason” you were banned was bigotry.

                  Doesn’t look like a fake reason to me.

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            Wikipedia, according to itself, isn’t a reliable source when it comes to such internationally hot topics. It’s primarily written by western young men who are mostly exposed exclusively to western media, and the articles they write are referenced by this same media. If you wanna read a bit more on this, I did a writeup some weeks ago about this very topic, sourcing my information from wikipedia itself.

            With this I don’t mean to say that the accusations you’re showing are false, I honestly don’t have enough information to confirm or deny it, but in times of war information is a powerful tool and media from both sides won’t doubt to distort information to benefit their own countries.