• TheLoneMinon@lemm.ee
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    11 hours ago

    Dude could’ve gotten vanilla anywhere, but instead spent his time and energy to go on a quest with his friend to get the ice cream he really wanted. Then he booted him for wanting a “plain” flavor. YTA.

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      I feel we’re missing context. The core question is the utility of the first to the second, either in terms of helping with the quest or at least by dint of providing pleasant company, relative to the effort the second invested for having the first join their journey.

      If the first was just a drag, some stranger or acquaintance that heard about the quest and wanted to tag along, made nothing but trouble and the second figuratively carried them all the way out of sympathy or kindness, I’d have some measure of understanding for their frustration. Their outburst would still be pointlessly rash and vengeful, given that the effort is spent already and kicking the other off won’t restore it, particularly without knowing the motivation (for instance, the vanilla ice cream being particularly delicious there), but in making someone else haul you along on a difficult quest, apparently with little regard for whether that effort would be worth it or clarifying their stakes from the outset, I’d rule that ESH.

      But if the first pulled their weight or even helped, it would be straight up ungrateful and cruel over nothing but personal preference.

      Why am I overanalysing the morality of a four-panel comic again?

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    9 hours ago

    If I want to see what craftsmanship went into the ice cream: Vanilla

    If I don’t care (like I do usually):

    Apple, Tempura, Black Thai Tea = Heavens

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    Vanilla is unironically the best flavor, chocolate based ones are not refreshing and fruit based ones taste like food dye no. 6.

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      Only if they use concentrate. Though ice shops using real fruits/ingredients are rare, they make the best ice.

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        Guess not, I don’t feel like playing flavour roulette every time I feel like having ice cream.

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          People are being kind of snotty but there’s a difference between the stuff in stores that is portrayed as ice cream but it’s actually not.

          There are all kinds of “frozen desserts” and “iced treats” etc that use vegetable oils, emulsifiers and such to simulate the ice cream experience, and those tend to also use lower-grade flavorings.

          Real ice cream is pretty expensive because it uses mostly real cream and tends to use much higher quality ingredients overall. In a real ice cream product, you’re more likely to get actual cocoa vs chocolate-y flavor. Red from actual fruit vs a food dye mixed into corn syrup.

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      yea try fruit sorbets made from fruits that you like. you can even do it home. cut up some banana, freeze it, take it out and wait a couple minutes so it can be blended, blend it with some tahini and cinnamon. can repeat similar stuff with strawberries, seedless grapes etc.

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    I think it’s reasonable to go for a pretty standard flavor in that setting to have a reference point. I kind of do that with pizza, pepperoni the first time I try a new restaurant and if it’s good I’ll try other toppings the next time.

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      7 hours ago

      Quattro fromagi for me, see how well they do it and if they try to cheap out on the cheese.

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      Yes! That’s what I usually do as well. Unless there is some house specialty I’ve been recommended and I came for, I will try a “reference dish” to get a baseline.

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      Vanilla extract became expensive, many ice cream makers used less, end result vanilla is considered the bland flavor because there is never any vanilla in it.

      It’s fucking milksugar.

      Find a vanilla with actual vanilla in it and it’ll grow hair on your tits, sweetie.

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      How well an ice cream shop does vanilla will be an indicator of how well they do the other 1999 flavors. Is it quality ice cream or a whole lot of chemicals to get your flavor?

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      16 hours ago

      Plain or not, vanilla is common. According to this comic, you will die when your body hits the bottom.

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        Vanilla (flavor) may be ubiquitous, but it’s not “plain” or boring. Certainly not if made right! That’s the false equivalency…

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        Which is fascinating because it used to be very rare until we figured out how to make a 100% equal replica chemically for cheap.

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          Still prefer real vanilla for cold things. There’s more flavors in it than just vanillin. Most of that gets destroyed at higher temps. So for baked goods, artificial vanilla is indistinguishable.

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      Yes vanilla is not plain. The plain flavour is Rabri. It’s just you don’t have rabri in the west that’s why you all think vanilla is plain.

      Also rabri ice-cream >> vanilla ice-cream

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        8 hours ago

        Ice cream boneheads, the lot of you!

        Ice cream is three basic ingredients: cream, sugar, salt.

        Anything other than that cannot be considered “plain” ice cream!

        Also, I make my own ice cream and I agree that cardamom is top-tier. Shockingly good with a few drops of brewed espresso as well!

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        So is chocolate, yet no one complains about it.

        “Vanilla”, for some reason, has come to mean “plain” in English. That is a specific linguistic quirk. It doesn’t exist in my native language, and not coincidentally no-one who I share this native language with would think to give me shit because my favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla, because it’d be just as nonsensical and out of the left field as making fun of someone for preferring chocolate flavor.

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    18 hours ago

    just to be the first to say it, vanilla is a complex flavour which makes incredible ice cream if done right.

    the flavour you’re thinking of is “milk”.

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      it’s not that vanilla is a bad flavour, it’s that you can get it anywhere

      it’s like being at a pizza restaurant with a hundred different pizzas and you order Margherita

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        i live in sweden, if a pizza place had less than a hundred different pizzas i’d be weirded out.

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          Fair enough, but I meant that as opposed to a more general restaurant that has pizza’s but doesn’t specialise in them. You can probably get a great Margherita there too.

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            honestly, if a restaurant has many different pizzas their base tends to be bland. i’m not sure the same applies for ice cream.

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        But this just has the same problem. Margherita pizzas are also amazing if done right. There is a great Italian restaurant I go to where I rarely get anything but the Margherita because it’s so good. What you are think of is “plain cheese and tomato”.

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          No you are correct, Margherita is great, but I can get that one around the corner. If I’m at a special pizza place, I’m gonna try something new. It might even be not as good as a Margherita but you cannot know that until you’ve tried it.

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          Even a simple white pizza is amazing on its own if they have a good crust and they use good cheese. There was once a local place where I tried that and loved it, and it’s something I’d love to try again…if not for how badly dairy just fucks me up. I love getting fancy with ingredients, but sometimes less is more.

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      Even a simple sweet cream flavor is amazing on its own if they have a good process and they use good milk. There was once a local place where I tried that and loved it, and it’s something I’d love to try again…if not for how badly dairy just fucks me up. I love getting fancy with ingredients, but sometimes less is more.

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    Black Scarf is a dummy. That’s gonna be the best vanilla you ever had. That, or the whole shops a gimmick

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      Gonna go ahead and say that if you have 2000 flavors you probably didn’t spend enough time optimizing each one for perfect flavor.