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    I’m apparently the only one whose immediate reaction was not laughing but thinking, “that is an incredibly inappropriate way for a landlord to talk to a renter.”

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      I hate so much the “this never happened” crowd, but it’s at least a little relief here to believe this is faked.

      Because no, that’s an awful way to speak to anybody

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        And that’s why y’all are lamers.

        I mean Jesus what kind of pseudo fake ass decorum shit do you have to be on to argue you need to be proper when talking to fucking anyone that isn’t your stick in the mud boss.or company paper trail?

        Toilets broke, fix it. Shittersclogged.jpg

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    The policy here at my area does what used to be called the Japanese No. That is to say that pets are permitted, as is everything, in exchange for an exorbitant fee.

    Good business sense, but in this case, cruel.

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      Enter emotional support animal paperwork. A hundred bucks and an autism diagnosis saves me $40 a month in pet rent and a several hundred dollar pet deposit. Landlords hate this!

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        Oh wow…

        I already have the diagnosis too. I’m paying pet rent. You might’ve just saved me a big chunk of money. I’ll have to check the lease.

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          Oh baby…welcome to the good life! There are a lot of legit online organizations you can find that offer emotional support animal letters. Just have to prove to them your identity, answer their questionnaire, provide proof of disability (in the form of your autism diagnosis in this case), and fork over $100 - $150ish, and they’ll send you a letter that is good for one year. It may take them a week or so to get you the letter, so be sure to request it at least a few weeks before you sign/resign a lease agreement.

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            People in my area have caught on that the emotional support animal credential is complete bullshit. I used to do it as well years ago to be able to bring my small dog with me to my kids baseball tournaments and the corresponding hotels.

            I’ve noticed that a lot of places will have notices up about it and only allow actual service animals.

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              Yeah well landlords in the US don’t get to just decide that they’re not going to accept it. Unless a request is completely unreasonable and until the law is changed, they must allow for emotional support animals.

              And it is most definitely not bullshit for those of us who actually need it. If you don’t actually have a disability and somehow acquired an ESA letter in order to skirt policies just to have your little buddy near you, then it is people like you we have to blame for hotels, restaurants, and other such companies no longer allowing emotional support animals on their premises.

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                You just happily advertised what to do to get the landlord unable to reject a pet application and you’re calling me the problem lol.

                The emotional support animal for is a quick 2 minute form. There’s no validation or verification that it is an actual support animal. It’s a complete farce.

                A service dog can cover the areas you talk about but actually require training “Qualifying Conditions: Mobility problems, paralysis, diabetes, asthma, autism, depression, bipolar disorder, panic attacks, post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), speech problems, social anxiety, epilepsy, blindness, deafness.”

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        I’m pretty sure that only works in New York and California. I don’t think other states have laws protecting ESAs on the books, unless it’s a service animal.

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          It is a protected right by law under the Fair Housing Act and backed up by the Department of Housing and Urban Development.

          As long as a person who is diagnosed with a disability (which includes autism under the ADA) provides evidence of their non-apparent disability in the form of an emotional support letter by a qualified and reputable party which can vouch for the presence of that person’s disability, then a US landlord cannot deny that person their assistance animal, nor may they charge them a pet deposit or pet rent. They may only deny the request under certain conditions, outlined below.

          "An assistance animal is an animal that works, provides assistance, or performs tasks for the benefit of a person with a disability, or that provides emotional support that alleviates one or more identified effects of a person’s disability. An assistance animal is not a pet

          "Individuals with a disability may request to keep an assistance animal as a reasonable accommodation to a housing provider’s pet restrictions.

          "The Fair Housing Act requires a housing provider to allow a reasonable accommodation involving an assistance animal in situations that meet all the following conditions:

          • A request was made to the housing provider by or for a person with a disability
          • The request was supported by reliable disability-related information, if the disability and the disability-related need for the animal were not apparent and the housing provider requested such information, and
          • The housing provider has not demonstrated that:
            • Granting the request would impose an undue financial and administrative burden on the housing provider
            • The request would fundamentally alter the essential nature of the housing provider’s operations
            • The specific assistance animal in question would pose a direct threat to the health or safety of others despite any other reasonable accommodations that could eliminate or reduce the threat
            • The request would result in significant physical damage to the property of others despite any other reasonable accommodations that could eliminate or reduce the physical damage.

          "A reasonable accommodation request for an assistance animal may include, for example:

          • A request to live with an assistance animal at a property where a housing provider has a no-pets policy or
          • A request to waive a pet deposit, fee, or other rule as to an assistance animal.
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        Landlords hate it because you force them to incur extra expenses in wear/tear and cleaning. I’m saying this as a person that’s on the spectrum, has owned cats all my life, and has had a cat that destroyed subflooring in an apartment by peeing outside of the litterbox. It was literally $1000 in damage to replace the carpet–this was 20 years ago–and the damaged subflooring, and that was above and beyond the deposit that we’d paid.

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          And yet landlords corporations today have no problem charging “market value” for an individual apartment which fluctuates on a daily basis based on nothing more than what they think they can pump you for. I have no problem with them using some of their own ill-gotten gains for repairs.

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    Imagine living in a country where a landlord has a say about what pets you are allowed to have. absurd.

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      That’s most countries, afaik. Not all owners do that, ofc, but still. Sadly, pet owners looking for rent always have a harder time finding a place.

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        In Ontario, Canada, landlords can reject your rental application if you have pets but they can’t kick you out so I always just lie and say I don’t have pets :)

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          Can confirm. Plastic on couch armrests and carpets rolled and stuffed in a corner to prevent cats from destroying them and that’s about it, thankfully.

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              That cats look for places to sharpen their claws? Or that I’m protecting other people’s property to avoid being asked to pay for them?

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                Wear and tear on the carpet is normal, you are depriving yourself comfort. Fluffy rugs can work. If sofas aren’t yours then that’s fair, I plonk scratching posts on the corner and redirect energy.

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                  Ah, I see what you mean. Fair enough. And I’ve got my own rugs, yeah, place was too empty without. And yeah, got scratching posts and alternatives around, ofc.

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      Tell me what you think of this, then.

      In my country, an landlord owner can not forbid pets in a house unless there are specific rules that completely prevents it (like an HOA imposition, where no animals at all are allowed in an apartment building); it was ruled by our Supreme Court having a pet is an unwaivable right the individual has.

      (Yes, most people ignore this and just outright ban animals.)

      However, the owner of a house can demand certain conditions to be fullfilled, in order for an animal to be housed there, like the animal being registered (ID chip), licensed (paid annually), vaccinated, properly kept (cages, terrariums or whatever necessary to accomodate, safely, the animal(s)), behaviour (a dog can not spend their time barking their head off, a cat yowlling, birds screeching) and for the guardian to assume full responsability for any and all damages the animal causes.

      This part is legal and most people would run for the hills if they found such a clause on a leasing agreement, as for the moment they sign it, they are legally binded by it and failling to observe any condition is legal ground for breach of contract.

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      Insurance on the property is usually why certain breeds of pets aren’t allowed (i.e. “aggressive” dog breeds, exotic animals). It’s not just landlords being landlords.

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      Hairless cats do have certain health risks and need to be bathed regularly (once a week) In general I would advise you to not buy a specific breed, as they are more expensive and have more health problems than a general “house car” from the shelter

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        Yeah, but a lot of people with a hairless cat have one because they want a cat but are allergic. For them a rescue isn’t really an option.

        For anyone who doesn’t have a good reason to need a particular breed of dog/cat, get a rescue instead.

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          Sphynx are not hypoallegenic. The allergen isn’t fur, but saliva. Specifically, the Fel d 1 protein (…which is also secreted from the sebaceous glands). If you get a Sphynx because you think they aren’t going to trigger your allergies, you’re gonna have a bad time.

          IIRC, the Siberian is supposed to produce less Fel d 1 than most other breeds.

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            Huh. I used to date a witch (Black Forest Wicca, before someone thinks I misspelled another word) who told me she had one because other cats set off her allergies and it didn’t. It kinda resembled a gremlin from the movie and was a really friendly, affectionate cat if a little weird feeling to pet.

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      Well. The honest truth is that they’re considerably more susceptible to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy (HCM), and hence much more likely to die early from congestive heart failure. The same breeding that has reinforced the hairless genes has also reinforced a genetic predisposition to heart issues. (FWIW, heart disease kills a lot of cats across the board, but it’s more common in specific breeds.) As far as I can tell, they’re on-par with Maine Coon cats in regards to the prevalence of HCM, but not quite as bad as Ragdolls (which are about 1:4)

      Aside from that, Sphnyx tend to get a lot of ear wax buildup that needs to be manually cleaned because they lack cilia in their ears. They also need to be bathed regularly, since their tongue doesn’t work well for cleaning skin, and they can get pretty grungy. They seem to be slightly more prone to having sensitive stomachs.

      Otherwise, they tend to be very friendly, active, people-oriented cats.

      We’ve had a total of 6, but have lost two to heart failure, with two more that are in the very early stages of heart failure, all at under 8 years old.

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        Thank you for the detailed response!

        I can’t get one right now because of where I live and already own a pet, but maybe some day?

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      From what I read, breeding Sphynx cats is illegal in the EU or at least the Netherlands. They have a higher risk of skin cancer and the lack of whiskers comes with issues.