Honestly, I kind of think my country (France) forbids weed today because of all the bullshit of the Reagan era and it’s pretty infuriating.
Their depiction of weed as some super dangerous class 3000 hardcore drug ended up as some kind of standard for most of the developed countries.
It sucks.
Especially when it has medicinal applications.
Just like morphine. That doesn’t mean it’s not dangerous
If you think morphine is comparably dangerous to cannabis then you’re nuts.
I never said it was, just that it being used as a medicine doesn’t make it “safe”
I’m not one of these people that thinks it cures cancer or anything. But comparing it to morphine just muddys the waters.
It is absolutely safe enough to be recreationally legal. Morphine is not.
Yeah we know you’re a weed addict, but according to whom is it "safe enough to be recreationally legal?
As someone who’s drank alcohol and smoked cannabis, yeah alcohol is absolutely more dangerous/obstructive to normal function but no one bats an eye if you go home after work and have a couple beers.
Hell when I was in the military it was practically expected that you were going to show up to work hungover since there wasn’t fuck all to do.
Smoke a joint on leave? Kicked out, you’re the worst soldier/sailor/marine/airman that’s ever existed.
It’s an absolute joke that alcohol is considered safe enough to be legal but cannabis isn’t. Of the two, alcohol should be the illegal one.
Wow, you really did just type “weed addict” without a trace of irony, didn’t you?
Why does it even matter if it’s safe? Why shouldn’t you be able to make the decision for yourself?
Oh man. Bless it’s heart.
The governments of Canada, Uruguay, United States, Spain, Jamaica, France, Greece, India…
23 countries have recreational cannabis laws.
Sit down, shut up, and fucking keep up to date.
And the term “weed addict” is some fucking refer madness bs.
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just like…
See what you did there?
Reading comprehension is fucked.
Yeah, it had medical applications “just like” morphine. It isn’t “just like” morphine. Fucking hell.
Being medicinal doesn’t make it not dangerous, but thankfully, reality does.
As safe as trash food, porn and a sedentary and isolated life?
You’re just judging everyone now, huh?
Yes, we all have vices but that’s no excuse to justify them
And you sitting there judging everyone based on your norms, what’s this doin for ya?
It’s just indication to the fact, that the biggest part of our assumed development, our democracy, or our rule of reason is but a delusion.
Smoking weed will make you… DUTCH!
A fate worse than death
agreed, being tall would be cool tho
It’s just bewildering to prohibit a plant that is easy to grow, serves a lot of uses, and doesn’t easily get you killed.
I’m also in Europe, and still trying to cope with the fact that I got into trouble with the law for tending a garden. Well I guess at least it re-radicalized me for all it’s worth.
I had a similar experience with my poppy field ringed with gympie gympie.
I’m all for legalisation, and I’m a regular user, but the fact that it’s a plant has always struck me as a weak argument. We can do better.
It’s one tier better than “It’s natural!” (So are asbestos, arsenic, and anthrax.)
considering how much French society despises US policy, I’m kind of amazed that France is still prohibitionist - that really does suck mate.
Or maybe because it’s a drug (alcohol and tobacco are too ingrained in society to be outlawed, and despite that tobacco consumption is decreasing)
I mean there are tons of drugs which are perfectly legal, so I don’t really see that as a sound reason to outlaw it.
“Tons of drugs” literally just tobacco and alcohol
And caffeine And acetaminophen And ibuprofen And sildenafil And benzodiazepine And fluoxetine And sertraline And spironolactone And cetirizine …
Those can hardly be considered drugs
And yet caffeine is more addictive with stronger withdrawal effects.
You should give up, it’s clear to everyone that you’ve never used the substance and have all your information from drug-war era reefer madness propaganda.
It’s also clear that most people that defend it want their vices legalised
You are wrong
Eh, I’m not a fan of that definition. Technically Water meets the requirement and even skips the “food for nutrition” out that they give.
As a former pharmacy tech, ahem, “ya wrong”
You might want to look up what the definition of ‘drug’ is…
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I “abuse” sildenafil because I get it through someone other than my GP and take it recreationally when swinging.
It is absolutely a drug.
hm sounds like you’re enjoying yourself way too much sure that must be bad in some way? /s
Okay I’ve had enough it’s time for me to tell you that you are completely out of touch with reality. Now that you know this, you can overcome your ignorance with a little awareness. Good luck, it’s going to be a bit of a battle to get your perceptions straightened out.
No, I will not poison my lungs with weed
I need me a jazz cigarette, I’m having the shakes, Daddy-O!
I need some of that devil lettuce to get in the groove.
mmmMMmmmm MMM! I do love me some lazer lettuce, that jazz cabbage doobee do it every time
Yeah man, I could also really go for a marijuana about now
Be careful, you cannot do more than four marijuanas a year to avoid addiction
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Talk to your friends about freebasing marijuana. Otherwise you’ll identify their bodies at the morgue.
This tracks
One marijuana, please
me when I run out of cheetos
me irl
That man really needs to sniff some weeds.
You want him to talk coherently after having “a marijuana?” Yeah, good luck with that!
Me after 2 hours in the office
Many of us, I think. Work sucks.
Tbf, my brother absolutely freaks the fuck out if he goes too long without a joint. He acts more explosively angry than itching invisible bugs, but the feeling behind it is the same.
Does he smoke with tobacco? Smoking with tobacco does that to me
No, he’s just got a host of issues. For some people, weed just exasperates that, and he’s one of them.
He has other issues then that he needs to deal with.
You think the guy above doesnt?? Lol.
Makes sense. THC withdrawals been linked to aggression.
He needs running through with a flaming duffel coat.
That looks and feels like a colorized panel from a Chick Tract but I can’t seem to find the source. Anyone know where it came from originally?
Oh, I need to get my hands on a copy of that! There’s a spot on my office wall that is always off camera, perfect place for a blown up print. :)
Wait so it is isn’t real just a satire?
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PAWS is no joke, though.
And after being through enough stop cycles with it I can tell you that there are physiological addiction issues with strong cannabis.
Loss of appetite, insomnia, pressured speech, sweating, night sweats, and irritability for up to seven to ten days is super common for people stopping regular usage and abusive usage.
Those are also typical symptoms of people forcing a change in habits. An acute change if you will.
Imagine someone who works remotely - when they’re informed they now have to do a 2 hour car commute everyday for no reason other than to see the boss even if it means less productivity.
Those symptoms seem like a fairly normal response.
The article you linked mentions it isn’t a recognized syndrome.
*Edit: That’s not to say I disagree it exists; I’ve even felt similar things for a few days after stopping cannabis use. But if the scientific jury is out then it should probably be disclosed that this is the case.
PAWS is no joke, though.
While post-acute withdrawal syndrome has been reported by those in the recovery community, there have been few scientific studies supporting its existence outside of protracted benzodiazepine withdrawal.[8] [9] Because of this, the disorder is not recognized by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders[10] or major medical associations.
Maybe not a joke, but it doesn’t sound like it’s taken very seriously
That Wikipedia article has zero mentions of cannabis.
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Yeah, it does. I’m all for legalization. But awareness is important.
Do you have any source besides “trust me bro”? The Wikipedia article you linked does not mention marijuana anywhere.
I’m pro legalization.
Here [0] is a very detailed paper overviewing the current research for known withdrawal effects, impacted receptor activity, and known information on cannabis withdrawal. It has many, many sources for its information. I can provide more research if you’d like.
Any chemical that causes physical tolerance and especially euphoria (which suggests dopamine activity) can almost certainly cause PAWS. This is because of various receptors up and down regulating to compensate for increased/decreased stimulus - when you remove the stimulus it takes time for your receptors to correct. Even SSRI’s can cause PAWS. This is also why usually (but not always) your PAWS symptoms will be the opposite effect of the drug.
The easiest example to show physical chemical changes is that weed is a REM asleep suppressor. This causes REM rebound - this is why heavy users often report bizarre dreams and part of why sleep quality becomes worse during PAWS.
On top of this, later stages of addiction from almost any euphoric chemicals (with the possible exception of some psychedelics ) cause changes to ΔFosB. This is part of what causes “drug seeking behavior”.
Marijuana is certainly not as bad as alcohol, but this culture around “it’s not addictive” is harmful. It acutely effects receptors causing physical withdrawal, it’s not “merely physiological dependence”. It’s worth noting that it doesn’t cause problems for nearly many people as most recreational drugs.
I have seen people experience strong withdrawal symptoms when they quit vaping THC. Shakes, massive irritability, sweating, etc. It’s minor compared to opium or alcohol withdrawal, but it looks very unpleasant as an outside observer.
I’ve seen people have those same symptoms when quitting coffee.
Caffeine is also addictive. The symptoms I saw from THC withdrawal were a lot more pronounced than any coffee withdrawal I’ve seen though. To be clear, I’m talking about strong vape, or dab, not leaf. The dab wax you can buy today is 3x stronger than the hash people used to go to Amsterdam to get when I was younger.
