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    I’ve made it two decades in IT and related fields by searching for answers using Google. I accidentally took my laziness, love of automation, and ability to Google and became an SRE. Then I accidentally became a senior software engineer because the director on that side of the house liked my initiative and was sure my skills would translate. I protested but got a substantial bump to do it.

    I’m failing upwards by abusing stack overflow and search engines.

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    Do teachers actually say this these days? Or are you making it up just for the sake of the meme.

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        for us oldbies, who went to school before the internet was popular, it used to be “You won’t have a calculator with you everywhere you go!”

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          You won’t always have access to books from a printing press, youngster, so you must derive all knowledge from first principles!

          And ftr, there’s always been a good reason to learn things from first principles, and for teachers to encourage students to practice learning from first principles. You end up with a deeper understanding about it, can answer more questions on your own, and can ask better questions and get faster answers, if you understand the layers beneath your question.

          That’s still no excuse for teachers being dishonest about the reason though. I don’t believe that teachers in the 70’s and 80’s thought calculators were just gonna go away.

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        Funny. In my day Wikipedia just came out and they used to give the same advice. In comparison, I would wager any random wiki article has a better chance of being more reliable and a better answer to your question than a Google summary.

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          Eh, there are entire categories of questions that can’t and shouldn’t be answered by searching wikipedia. A technical howto, for example, doesn’t belong on wikipedia because wikipedia articles are listings of facts, not narratives about following a process. They just aren’t meant for, or structured for, that type of question.

          Stackoverflow also leaves a lot to be desired in that area, though, so you still need a search engine to find them.

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        Also might be good to recommend them to use multiple links / sources, and look for opposite views to broaden their perspectives on topics.

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    “There is no point in reinventing the wheel” is my favorite saying when it comes to things like this.

    If something has been done over and over again, there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch. It wastes time, money, and effort that could be spent on creating something new.

    Humanity’s greatest strength is being able to add to the previous generation’s knowledge base, too!

    If we had to relearn how to do the same things in the same way, in every generation, we would still be in the stone age…

    When I manage folks, I expect them to steal if its already been done and especially if it’s been done to death.

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      there is no point in doing it yourself from scratch.

      Learning. The point is to learn.

      You don’t have to learn everything that way, but you understand things a lot better when you’ve built them from scratch, and that underlying foundation enhances the entire knowledge stack.

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        I like both of your guys’ points. Keeping all old knowledge while deconstructing and rebuilding it to make it understandable to newer generations is pretty great in my opinion

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    Google search results have become so bad i barely use it today. Its even better to use chatgpt. You have to take every answer with a grain of salt but usually it can give you a few options and give you resources to work with. Google search sucks ass. The amount of times i do NOT find what im searching for is way too high

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    Im full time IT, a huge chunk of my job was learned through google. My current position looked incredibly different before we had phones and could research everything on the fly. I feel bad for tech’s who didn’t have access to research tools like we do now.

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      I work in controls and I couldn’t imagine how life was working with allen bradley stuff pre internet. there’s a manual for everything

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      Well, for once it was far smaller code base and significantly simpler. Better optimized though since hardware was very limited. Middleware nightmare we are currently living in is no joke. Soon we’ll have to have search engine locally indexing stuff because code grew so big. People just include everything without thinking. Yea sure pull entire web browser for your note taking app because they were too lazy to learn few calls to UI library.

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    Searching does help, but hey, you have to know what to search for and then how to apply the findings.

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    I went to work in IT over half a decade ago without relevant credentials. Google taught me everything.

    If only I could sign in to the damn system.

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    Well, you need the basics of software development to start with. But sure, I’m not going to make my own implementation for every problem I come across. That would be insanity and a colossal waste of time.

    However, people googling or using ChatGPT to create code they do not understand themselves, are just cargo cult programming, and it will bite them in the arse/ass (delete as applicable).