My cubicle office job often involves going downstairs to the lab so I can take measurements with equipment far too expensive for me to have at home, and even too expensive for the company to lend out to employees’ home offices.
A lot of return-to-office work is bullshit, but making absolutist blanket statements like that just weakens the argument rather than helping anybody.
Then you don’t have an office job, but a lab job that also involves sitting in an office. Almost every job that is 100% sitting in an office can be done remote.
The reality is that its unnecessary for the absolute majority but there are some exceptions, which people wont list to make their statement absolutely correct. It would be exhausting to do that just to satisfy some people who need that.
I dont mind blanket statements when its something to applies to almost everyone.
Sure, sure … but it’s important to remember that not all jobs are office jobs.
For your delivery drivers, retail shelf-stockers, sanitation workers, farmers, nurses, construction workers, etc, etc, etc … remote work doesn’t really work for them. Remote work is fine for IT jobs, clerical jobs, and administrative jobs, but a lot of jobs can’t be done that way, which means a lot of people still need to commute.
i drive delivery whenever i need to, and i’d appreciate less useless traffic on the streets and the extra money flowing, which sometimes means more and easier work.
i’m sure other commuters would appreciate less congested roads and less wasted time too.
In a nearby harbor they were crying out for dock workers. You have to be at location, but there was no transit option. The nearby city was too expensive for housing for the salary they got so the commute by car from somewhere affordable was long and not worth the pay. Commuting isn’t free.
When you can only commute with a car, yeah it’s dumb. However, I have a daily commute of 1 hour with my bicycle and it’s a great way to get some exercise. In this regard it’s forcing me to move my body, which I otherwise probably wouldn’t in my free time. Gym of life.
What kind of dumb argument is that? If you worked from home you could still take a morning and afternoon bike ride. And you could actually go some place new or run an errand.
Everyone works in different ways. You may not believe it, because it is not your thing but some really want to separate their work location from their free time location and there are also good reasons for doing so. I am not saying everyone has to want that but many do and there is nothing wrong with that. The other thing is that real, face to face communication is simply not the same as an online call, especially low key interactions during lunch or coffee break. Depends on your job of course and they way of working but there is value in it.
If someone can combine the commute with work out, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Why impose your preferences on that other person?
The return-to-office folks are not giving us the option of returning to work if we want. They’re forcing us even when it’s completely unnecessary. So yeah, you should have the option to bike to work when and if you want but the rest of us should have the option to opt out when it’s possible to work from home. That’s 100% not happening.
commuting is D U M B.
the internet exists motherfucker. THE. INTERNET. EXISTS.
every single cubicle office job is dumb, and exists because of bourgeois sadism of depriving us of all of our free time.
My cubicle office job often involves going downstairs to the lab so I can take measurements with equipment far too expensive for me to have at home, and even too expensive for the company to lend out to employees’ home offices.
A lot of return-to-office work is bullshit, but making absolutist blanket statements like that just weakens the argument rather than helping anybody.
Then you don’t have an office job, but a lab job that also involves sitting in an office. Almost every job that is 100% sitting in an office can be done remote.
The reality is that its unnecessary for the absolute majority but there are some exceptions, which people wont list to make their statement absolutely correct. It would be exhausting to do that just to satisfy some people who need that.
I dont mind blanket statements when its something to applies to almost everyone.
Sure, sure … but it’s important to remember that not all jobs are office jobs.
For your delivery drivers, retail shelf-stockers, sanitation workers, farmers, nurses, construction workers, etc, etc, etc … remote work doesn’t really work for them. Remote work is fine for IT jobs, clerical jobs, and administrative jobs, but a lot of jobs can’t be done that way, which means a lot of people still need to commute.
For sure, but if I don’t have to, that frees up the road for the people who actually need it.
i drive delivery whenever i need to, and i’d appreciate less useless traffic on the streets and the extra money flowing, which sometimes means more and easier work.
i’m sure other commuters would appreciate less congested roads and less wasted time too.
True, true. Less commuting would be a benefit for just about everybody (except wealthy commercial real estate landlords).
Just wanted to point out that saying everyone should stop commuting is pretty hyperbolic.
In a nearby harbor they were crying out for dock workers. You have to be at location, but there was no transit option. The nearby city was too expensive for housing for the salary they got so the commute by car from somewhere affordable was long and not worth the pay. Commuting isn’t free.
When you can only commute with a car, yeah it’s dumb. However, I have a daily commute of 1 hour with my bicycle and it’s a great way to get some exercise. In this regard it’s forcing me to move my body, which I otherwise probably wouldn’t in my free time. Gym of life.
What kind of dumb argument is that? If you worked from home you could still take a morning and afternoon bike ride. And you could actually go some place new or run an errand.
Everyone works in different ways. You may not believe it, because it is not your thing but some really want to separate their work location from their free time location and there are also good reasons for doing so. I am not saying everyone has to want that but many do and there is nothing wrong with that. The other thing is that real, face to face communication is simply not the same as an online call, especially low key interactions during lunch or coffee break. Depends on your job of course and they way of working but there is value in it.
If someone can combine the commute with work out, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Why impose your preferences on that other person?
The return-to-office folks are not giving us the option of returning to work if we want. They’re forcing us even when it’s completely unnecessary. So yeah, you should have the option to bike to work when and if you want but the rest of us should have the option to opt out when it’s possible to work from home. That’s 100% not happening.
No, they aren’t. But you did not attack one of those, you attacked someone who was saying he was fine with going to the office by bike.
As I said, I personally wouldn’t do that in my free time, especially not every single day… because I’m too lazy haha