McEWEN, Tenn. (AP) — The blast in rural Tennessee that leveled an explosives plant and was felt for miles around left no survivors, authorities said Saturday.
The total number of dead was unclear, as was the cause of the Friday blast. By the weekend, the devastation came into focus, with officials saying they had found no survivors. A total of 16 people were missing, officials said.
“There’s a gauntlet of emotions there,” Humphreys County Sheriff Chris Davis said during a news conference, pausing to clear his throat before he asked for prayers for the families of the victims in a shaky voice.
“We’ve recovered no survivors,” he added.
Considering that our Trump-loving governor let Elon Musk install poisonous gas turbines in my hometown and is letting the National Guard and ICE run rampant, I won’t be surprised if he blames this on “left-wing actors.” Fuck you, Bill Lee. R.I.P to those lost in the blast.
I’m sorry if you, or anyone you know, is touched by this. Fuck anyone who contributed to this happening.
“There’s a lot of people hurting. A lot of people who are crying a lot of tears,” he said. “We are sad that our community is going through this, but it’s a tremendous opportunity for the church to minister to a lot of those people today.”
That’s such a sick statement to make. Truly disgusting.
Cults feed on shit like this. Desperate and distraught people are their favourite victims, except for children of course.
Fuck anyone for trying to comfort another person if their worldview doesn’t match mine. Right, buddy?
Dumb
Don’t feel sad about downvotes. It’s too bad it happened, but this is a great opportunity to tell you that the Eric the God Eating Penguin exists!
It’s not about matching worldviews. It’s about the statement essentially being “yeah it sucks for these people, but it’ll be great for the church.” At best, it’s tone-deaf. At worst, it’s downright sociopathic. Comforting someone else shouldn’t ever be about how it can benefit you.
Your comments show that your empathy is underdeveloped.
Comfort isn’t about yourself. When someone is grieving, you don’t do what makes yourself better, you do what makes them feel better.
Calling the loss of lives an ‘opportunity’ is making it about yourself because it describes how this situation benefits your personal religious agenda, not the beliefs of others. Proselytizing to others in their most vulnerable moment because it makes you feel accomplished is making it about yourself, not them.
First of all, opportunities are positive events, not things that one dreads. Calling the death of 16 people an opportunity to advance the goals of your church is sick.
Second, fuck religion. I don’t hate people who are duped into them. I hate the people doing the duping. I don’t care about Joe Schmoe who goes to church on Sunday, but I hate the priest who touches children and rants to his congregation about sin and going to Hell.
First of all, opportunities are positive events, not things that one dreads.
Is English your first language? People often use the word opportunity to find purpose in hardship, reframing adversity as something that might lead to growth.
I hate the priest who touches children and rants to his congregation about sin and going to Hell.
Wow, what a hot take. Someone give this guy more updoots for taking such a brave stance.
Opportunity - Noun:
a favorable juncture of circumstances
- Merriam Webster
I suppose people dying is favorable if you want to push your cult on their grieving families.
Is English your first language? You just completely supported their argument with your explanation of how “opportunity” is used lol
The reason moody has issue is probably due to how predatory it is from an outside perspective, sure from within it’s helping the community and bringing folks to Jeebus or whatever. But from without it just comes across as scummy and predatory, it’s basically the same thing cults do capture folks while they’re at their lowest.
Theres a church near me that does a hot meals thing with an open pantry so folks on hard times can get a hot meal and some food for the week, no strings attached don’t need to attend church or believe in their god or anything. Closest thing to pressure is that the pastor wanders around and just talks to folks, if they want to talk video games he talks video games, anime then anime, Jesus then Jesus. There’s no pressure for anything beyond saying thanks,
Also the pastor lets the local Neo-Hellenic guys use their backyard area for rituals which is fucking awesome. Same with the Wiccan.
Remember, the only difference between a cult and a religion is membership levels.
Chance is the word you use there. A chance for hope. A chance to comfort. A chance to bring people together to survive the tragedy.
There’s a reason why “opportunity” and “opportunistic” are related.
Religion is brain dead buddy, sorry you got into it. If you were a kid, it’s not your fault. You were brainwashed before you could develop critical thinking skills. If you’re an adult, sorry bud you got scammed
Opportunity as a way to reframe a bad situation is a good argument. “Is English your first language” is a very poor argument. Merriam-Webster shows it as positive, Cambridge says between positive and neutral, and Oxford just says neutral. As a native English speaker I feel comfortable saying that the connotation of opportunity is generally positive.
If comfort were the actual goal, you’d be right. But Christians are lying snakes, sooo…
“But [insert group name] are lying snakes” isn’t a healthy opinion to have. Seek help.
I could clarify that “not all Christians” but see arguments about men being rapists. It’s simply easier and safer to treat all Christians as dangerous.
We have a word for speaking confidently about something without evidence. That word is “lying”.
This fucking sucks. :(
You can bet this can be backtracked to some deregulation shit.
MAGA in action? DuPont used to have a brutally practical way to deal with pesky explosions in it’s black powder factories:
The mill buildings used in the manufacture of gunpowder were built with strong stone-walled structures on three sides but were only covered by light wood structures on the fourth side, which faced out onto the Brandywine Creek. When an accident occurred, the explosion was directed away from the other mills and storage areas and over the creek.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleutherian_Mills
The opposite of progressive is regressive.
not worry about that, they’ll blame trans or black people
100%
I can’t imagine safety regulations wouldn’t have included separation of large amounts of explosives by distance or with some kind of materials to avoid such a catastrophic explosion.
So, they do. Unfortunately, there aren’t realistic safety precautions that can be taken that don’t have some risk of catastrophic failure if you’re dealing with the manufacturing and storage of explosives. Even small quantities are destructive enough to be dangerous to store.
Ultimately safe storage comes down to human operational concerns. Missing or unenforced regulations relating to working hours, training, training compliance, or handling safety concerns would be my guess rather than storage conditions.Didn’t I read somewhere that they were operating at a faster than normal pace?
It wouldn’t surprise me, but I haven’t heard anything like that. Tough production schedules are a great way to cause incidents.
It is absolutely possible to work with smaller batches so that if something goes wrong it doesn’t take out the entire fucking building. It’s just less profitable.
I didn’t say it was impossible, just unrealistic. The cost increase for producing in batches smaller than what can cause a problem aren’t worth it if you afterwards just put it in the same pile. Customers aren’t going to want to take delivery as dozens of small shipments spread out over months, but in batches determined by how fast they use it and how much buffer they need. They’re certainly not going to want that rate slowed down by the factory having other customers.
The place where regulatory oversight is missing is in making sure that management isn’t pushing workers to work unsafely, or even letting them if they try.
You can blather on about theoretical customers that for some reason are warehousing unsafe quantities, but I don’t understand why thats relevant since this happened at the originating factory, not Imaginary Negligent Munitions Assembler, Inc. You say that working in safe quantities “isn’t worth it”. I must ask: it isn’t worth it to whom? The families of the obliterated corpses? Or just the greedy rich owners of the factory?
You’re lining up for a strawman. I very clearly stated that fault was with the owners and management for not enforcing safe operating procedures.
I disagreed that the gap in regulation was likely because of safe storage quantities, and more likely because of a failure to enforce safe operating practices.Don’t make it out to be like I’m saying nothing could have been done to save these people’s lives.
I’m saying expecting an explosives manufacturer to have less than what’s used in a typical charge onsite at any moment is unrealistic, as is storing reasonable quantities such that catastrophe is impossible. Any storage and manufacturing practices that could give you those guarantees would also require a rigorous training process and strong safety culture with well defined and enforced procedures and safeguards.theoretical customers that for some reason are warehousing unsafe quantities
What, in your mind, is a reasonable and safe quantity of explosives to warehouse for the manufacture of bombs?
By their nature, bombs contain an unsafe quantity of explosives. Safety comes from handling, not saying you can only have half of a 500lb bomb at a time.
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It’s good for business to make sure nothing stands in the way of success. That’s why safety and humanity are nowhere to be found.
It’s good for business to make sure nothing stands in the way of success.
And explosives apparently…
Apparently not the first time.
Sucks that Ukraine might see fewer shells from this.
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Our portfolio includes a comprehensive range of energetics based on HMX, HNS, PETN, RDX, and TNT.
Energetics. Yeah that’s one way of putting it.
Not quite Oppau, but close.
Energetic materials is the common way to group explosives, pyrotechnics and propellants.
Anything that carries its own oxygen, is self sustainss and reacts exothermic.
I see. Thank you!
Do you work with any energetics?
And the Halifax, Nova Scotia explosion that killed 1782 people.
Fyi – this is why every year Halifax sends a Christmas tree to Boston (who sent scores of people to help the city) as a thank-you.
I wonder if they knew the place was gonna blow or if it was just lights out in an instant with no warning. Explosives tend to be the latter, for better or worse
A lot of explosions at similar facilities had significant warning, unfortunately. While the detonation itself tends to be instant, they usually have rules about how densely explosives are packed, fire control systems, and systems to maximize the time between problem and disaster.
They probably knew something was wrong and that it was bad, but not how bad.
This same facility had an explosion in 2014 that resulted in death. The fact that they didn’t learn from that and chose to continue to be reckless is sad and infuriating.
So I looked into it, briefly, and it looks like that incident was a different company who rented space in their complex.
That isn’t better for them now, but there’s a difference between negligence and renting to the negligent.They ran the numbers, it’s actually cheaper to replace any equipment that gets damaged or killed.
I used to work in the oil industry, and there are old field logs from the 50s/60s where a whole crew died and the well is manned 2 days later. In the early 2000s we’d spend days on a single death or injury. Once the company paid the overtime because a guy’s wife was in labor and the contractor didn’t want to give him time off. It was addressed as a safety issue, there was no way he could concentrate safely… no issues to pay it. Sad to see the munitions industry caught in the 50s.
That depends on country tbh. And the The strange/sad thing is that I have read the DoD manuals (not American, but the DoD enforces their standars and audits foreign suppliers) and they are pretty stringent.
It’s also bad strategy to have a supply chain that is weak to episodes like this.
That was obvious. I don’t know why we needed a second headline for that
RIP
Yeah, I have my doubts they were making bombs for a good cause…
