Lauren Southern claims “you are being lied to by people who are stealing your money, defending sex traffickers, and covering up their crimes”

  • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    Tommy Robinson simping for a woman-raping Muslim like Tate proves that it was never about protecting women, nor was it even about being against Islam.

    It was always plain ol’ racism.

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    I feel bad for her. I can’t imagine being stupid enough to believe that you can hang around with people like this, and not get treated like garbage. They are literally living examples of the kind of shit they spew online…and yet somehow, these girls still don’t see them for who they are, until it’s too late.

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      I know what you’re saying but:

      If they abused her it is them who are responsible, not her.

      Pretty straightforward.

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        That certainly goes for normal practice, but there is also an element of ignoring the warning signs and the zookeepers, climbing in the cage with the lion, and being shocked when mauled. It’s not like they made a secret of their attitudes. Indeed they make a point of publicising them at every opportunity.

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          To be fair, she could have kept quiet about this and avoided another round of people calling her names online, which would have been the easier path. Most people in this thread might know “Robinson” is dodgy but we’re not the target audience.

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          The problem with that logic is that anyone can be let off the hook for immoral/illegal behaviour as long as they have said beforehand that they’ll do it.

          If I walk into a shop and tell the shopkeeper I’m going to rob them should I then get to take whatever I want with impunity?

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            A more apt analogy would be an invite-only shop with a buzzer on the door, and the shopkeeper buzzing in the shoplifter having been told that this is Angus Strange, notorious thief, and he has brought with him a fast car and has no method of payment on his person other than a lead pipe.

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        Totally agree with you. I think society/politics has become polarised to the extent that we’ve all grown colder towards perceived “enemies”; at the same time people shouldn’t be victim blamed for abuse, no matter how dumb they are.

        Additionally, what we perceive as “dumb” can sometimes be other people struggling with mental illness or disability.

        • Da Oeuf@slrpnk.net
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          The bottom line is that people are accountable for their own actions and not the actions of others, and that’s exactly how it should be.

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    Lauren Southern was touring English-speaking nations in 2018 and working with local far right figures. In this early part of her career, Southern was linked to the ‘alt right’ and accused of ‘tiptoeing at the precipice of outright white nationalism’. A year earlier in 2017, she released a video promoting the ‘great replacement theory‘, which is a white nationalist conspiracy theory.

    Am I supposed to feel sorry for this person? I’m asking a serious question: am I being asked to spend empathy on this person who clearly spends none of her own empathy on anyone else?

  • Tenebris Nox@feddit.uk
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    Why does Tommy and other right-wing goons all have Turkey Teeth? Do you need Turkey Teeth to join their club - bearing in mind lots of Tommy’s followers seem to have missing teeth?

    Teeth and proto-fascists.