Is anyone actually surprised by this?

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      2 days ago

      The truth is out now.

      What truth? Who talks like this and thinks it means something?

      • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        For the past week the people of China and the United States, as well as other countries have been comparing notes. Debunking propaganda on both sides. Realizing that much of what we’ve all been told for years/decades, has been lies.

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            For starters, that the Uyghur genocide is yet another piece of atrocity propaganda from the US. We know what a genocide looks like and how it’s impossible to hide in the modern world, as Gaza showed.

            Blurry satellite pictures of buildings and a German fascist swearing it for ten pages (financed by Raytheon and Lockheed-Martin) isn’t proof.

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                Lmao. Mehdi Hasan is an opportunist. You can check Uyghurs living in China rather than ones deliberately selected by a known ally of the US, Qatar. Extraordinary claims require proof and I haven’t seen anything other than hearsay, which is the first weapon of the CIA as with Saddam’s WMDs and Park Yeonmi’s claims of the DPRK making people pull trains by hand lmao.

                If you have any evidence that isn’t “I swear they do it”, I’ll be waiting. Though not holding my breath.

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                  Oh believe me I have. Medhi Hasan is just a quick easy link to see if you were being genuine or not. Not. One of my favorite YouTubers lived in shenzhen. She doesn’t post anymore. Because she and her partner who happens to be a trans Uyghur we’re physically threatened and called out by the government for mild criticisms. Which is extremely sad since she was very good representation for people in China in general. And would have shown that the government of China isn’t as bigoted and racist as it obviously is had they simply not been so insecure that they couldn’t take such mild criticism.

                  Oh by the way congratulations on your fallacy. Attacking the messenger. You didn’t refute anything from the segment. I mean I would have been surprised. Let me tell you floored if you had. But we know better than that.

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                    Easy to make claims, I’m still waiting for a single lick of evidence tho.

                    That segment had a whole lot of claims, again, with no evidence, so how can I refute what hasn’t been proven? It’s refuted by default.

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      …which truth came out? They don’t have CCP officials required by law to work at tech companies and disclose any and all data they acquire? They’re not using Uyghur slaves in their factories? They’re not trying to literally erase Taiwan off the maps? They’re not still censoring information about their horrific pasts? They’re not targeting, retaliating against and kidnapping protestors domestic and abroad? They’re not censoring virtually every US social website entirely from the entire country? Please bring me up to speed.

      E: any of you downvoters, feel free to correct me, I’d love to be wrong.