The only people who like the electoral college are people who lose the popular vote
Our founding fathers did not like democracy and took steps to keep our republic running by implementing the superior electoral college system.
What is superior about it at all? That it gives disproportional voting power to a few states?
It’s what keeps the union together. Otherwise we would have split a long time ago.
…the electoral college keeps the union together…??
Are we still a nation after all these years? Do you not understand what the electoral college does? It makes sure the smaller states still have equal power in the government. Otherwise we’d split off because power would be held by a few states.
I’m thinking you shouldn’t talk about the electoral college until you understand what it does because you’re dead wrong
Power IS held by a few states…the swing states…that are made important because the electoral college gives them disproportionate votes. States aren’t people and where you live shouldn’t matter for the presidential election.
[https://fairvote.org/archives/the_electoral_college-population_vs_electoral_votes/](A vote in Wyoming has the same “power” as 2 1/2 votes from Oregon). What about that sounds right to you?
States are the centers of power in our country. Not the people. It’s why states vote for president.
Diversity killed unity
Remember the articles of confederation.
Federalism has always been a tricky balance.
We are the United States, not United Citizens.
They also thought slaves should count as 3/5 of a person for representation purposes; this ensured that the conservatives could maintain their slave-State status without the Northern states being able to eliminate it through a vote.
So maybe we shouldn’t hold up their anti-democratic streak as an ideal.
But reactionaries are gonna reactionary.
You mean so the democrats could own their slaves. Funny how things have not changed
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Lincoln was a conservative himself. He described himself as a conservative and historians Label him as one. In the speech you cited, he was speaking as a conservative to other conservatives.
Democrats owned slaves. Democrats still want to own slaves.
Ending slavery is not a conservative position by definition. Conservatism means continuing the system that is currently in place and accepted.
Not correct. Conservatism aims for the eternal. Our system is feudalism, which chattel slavery replaced.
Ending slavery is a conservative value. Since we believe all men are equal, slavery by default insults that position.
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By definition, the Radical Republicans were progressives.
Back then it had a lot more to do with industry than Communism.
I get you don’t read well but see how Lincoln uses the word we. It’s including himself. Lincoln was a conservative. He was a Republican.
Lincoln was not a progressive.
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Democrats were conservative back then.
I guess if you knew basically nothing about US history that would be a convincing statement.
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Slavery sucked because it was diversity.
It was also cruel and pointless, since it was low quality labor.
The solution is ending diversity.
It’ll be investing to see how the numbers change after the debate. I suspect we will see Kamala drop even further.
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Polls haven’t come out yet. During the debate, independent dropped for Kamala by 7 points.
