• MxM111@kbin.social
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      Imagine that you live in a suburb. Imagine it is 3am, you are sleeping with your family, and suddenly a very loud and forceful knocking on the door for 10 seconds. That happened to me, and the only reason I did not bring my gun when I was checking what is going on is because I do not have one. But at that moment I really wished I had.

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        Imagine that you live in a suburb. Imagine it is 3am, you are drunk and want to go home. You forgot/lost your keys somewhere so you knock on your door to wake up whoever you are living with. Unfortunately for you in your drunk stupor you knocked on the wrong door and are now dead because someone with 0 gun training was allowed to buy and use one, got scared and shot you because they were frightened.

        The way I always see Americans speak about these late night incidents you’d think Europe would have collapsed from lack of guns in people’s homes…

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          Not even drunk, the back of your neighbours house catches fire so you run over and bang on the door to wake him - he doesn’t answer so you kick the door open just as he gets halfway down the stairs – even if he’s a responsible gun owner that moment of someone bursting in while he has a gun in his hand, instant tragedy…

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          That was not the case though. It were actual hooligans entertaining themselves. And being drunk is not an excuse for this behavior. Can’t hold the liquor do not drink.

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            Doesn’t matter what the situation actually was. The US has an object problem with gun violence. Just speaking statistics the US had more deaths in mass shootings and number of mass shootings in a single year than the entirety of Europe has in more than a decade, probably multiple decades looking at the numbers. Which gets really sad considering we have twice as many people living here. Guns aren’t the solution to your gun violence problem they are the fucking problem. Doesn’t matter if it’s thugs banging on your door or just some neighbours kid playing a prank all a gun does in any situation is increase the number of dead or seriously injured people afterwards. People in the Balkan countries are more responsible about gun ownership and a lot of those guys still have/had junk from the Yugoslav war lying around in the basement. They recently had a tragic mass shooting in Serbia after which the government announced an amnesty program for unregistered firearms. Guess what happened? People registered that too many guns just lying around is a problem and turned theirs in en masse.

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              Why are we talking about guns? The OP topic is about knocking the door. I brought gun (the one that I do not have) into discussion to only indicate that it can be quite scary.

              As for guns, it is too simplistic to blame gun violence to gun legality. It is more cultural thing than anything else, because there are countries with large legal ownership of guns, where gun violence is significantly smaller.

              For example, in US, 45% of households have guns, similarly in Findland about 40%. Findland however does not have anything close to US in gun violence.

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                I did not bring my gun when I was checking what is going on is because I do not have one. But at that moment I really wished I had.

                OP brings up guns which is why I mentioned them. You are btw correct in your “it’s a culture” argument but that doesn’t change the facts. Finland doesn’t have high gun ownership because people buy them at the supermarket btw, they just take their gun home after serving their conscription term. Same with Switzerland btw.

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        But if there was an intruder they probably wouldn’t want to make you aware of their presence correct? If someone was trying forced entry wouldn’t they just do it?

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          Do you think you can think logically at 3 am? And honestly I have no idea how those people think. As a human being I would not forcefully knock to someone in the middle of the night just to scare them. So, all bets are off. Maybe they come for lynching. How would I know?

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        They’re talking about knocking on a door and running away. In context, this means you’re talking about being scared for your life and shooting someone in the back as they run away. You’re an unhinged motherfucker.

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          How the fuck you have arrived in this conclusion in “this context” is beyond me.

          In this context I mentioned the gun to indicate how scared you are at 3 am for yourself and for your family, the need for protection. Not how gladly I would go on rampage. Seriously.