I don’t believe that a plurality of voters would vote for anyone opposite Trump. I’m not narcissistic enough to think everyone thinks like me. I recognize that most voters don’t follow politics, don’t engage with the news, and don’t really care much about learning who the candidates are.
The most important factor for all elections everywhere is name recognition. People want to feel like they know what they’re doing, even if they have made zero effort to engage in the process.
It is far too late for anyone other than Biden to introduce themselves to America.
Trump doesn’t need to convince people to vote for him. His acolytes will show up to vote. Trump just needs to convince everyone who won’t vote for him that it’s pointless to go to the polls. One neat little gift the DNC could give to Trump would be to say to all Democrats that their primaries don’t matter and there’s no reason to vote. Annointing a new candidate now, after people have cast their votes, would be a giant fuck you to every voter who has been screaming for better candidates over the last 6 years. Nothing will kill enthusiasm for voting quicker than passing the buck to someone new.
And let’s say they do pick someone else. They haven’t been vetted or tested. They haven’t campaigned in any states. They haven’t built the infrastructure or donor network or legal team. What if the new candidate has a scandal? Does the party hand the baton to yet another candidate? Should we leave the ballots blank? Do like a MLB trade, where we all vote for “A candidate to be named at a later date.”
Like it or not, we are stuck with Biden for this one. February 1st, we can all start talking about if he should step down, who should be Harris’ VP, whether the Dems have someone that can win in 2028, etc.
I’m curious, though, who is your candidate? You get to hand pick the name on the ballot across from Trump, who is it? Whitmer or Newsom? Buttigieg or Shapiro? If they are so great, why aren’t you calling to replace Harris on the ticket? I mean, that’s the stronger play, right? If you wanted Harris, you could just argue that a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris, because he’s really old and can resign as soon as he is sworn in. That’s the best of both strategies.
But it’s not Harris. So why not replace her on the ballot with your dream candidate? It solves the primary problem, since people were casting votes for Biden, and he’s still on the ballot. Plus, then the new person can introduce themselves to America, and Harris can retire to write her book.
So why argue against people trying to get a better candidate?
You and everyone else willing to vote for Biden, will vote for any Dem.
Some people don’t want trump, but won’t vote Biden.
There exist other politicians who can be the Dem nominee.
Conclusion: Sticking with Biden, becomes the worst chance at beating trump.
Don’t worry about anything else, just look at that logic.
Can you find any flaw in it?
But just so you don’t keep asking:
I’m curious, though, who is your candidate?
AOC
But again. All we’re talking about who can beat Trump. And if that logic up there isn’t something you disagree with, let me know. Just stripping this all down to a pure logic thing.
So why argue against people trying to get a better candidate?
Because I don’t believe you are trying to get a better candidate. I believe you are trying to attack Biden so that Trump wins. Your arguments are ridiculous and nonsensical.
You and everyone else willing to vote for Biden, will vote for any Dem.
I already answered this one. I don’t believe it is “and everyone else.” I’m only speaking for myself.
Some people don’t want trump, but won’t vote Biden.
Yes, some people don’t want Trump but won’t vote for Biden. There are more people who won’t vote for someone they don’t know. I don’t believe the former group outnumbers the latter.
There exist other politicians who can be the Dem nominee.
No, there are no other politicians who both can and want to be the nominee right now. None.
Conclusion: Sticking with Biden, becomes the worst chance at beating trump.
You only reach that conclusion if you want Trump to win.
Don’t worry about anything else, just look at that logic.
Can you find any flaw in it?
I cannot find any logic, so I also can’t find any flaws.
But just so you don’t keep asking:
I’m curious, though, who is your candidate?
AOC
This reveals you aren’t serious at all. Every progressive would love to see AOC in the White House, but no true progressives are delusional enough to think she shouls challenge Joe Biden for the nomination. AOC has no interest in running for President, and has zero chance of raising the money or infrastructure required to mount a legitimate campaign. You might as well have named Jon Stewart or Kermit the Frog.
But again. All we’re talking about who can beat Trump. And if that logic up there isn’t something you disagree with, let me know. Just stripping this all down to a pure logic thing.
Again, no logic, just distractions.
I’m optimistic this will work.
I don’t believe you. But if you’re serious, grow up.
This is what most voters likely to vote Biden say.
But for you, would you say there’s any Dem that you wouldn’t vote for?
Do you think that answer is common among people willing to vote for Biden?
And shouldn’t we run the person who most voters are willing to vote for because Trump is such a threat?
I would vote for anyone opposite Trump.
I don’t believe that a plurality of voters would vote for anyone opposite Trump. I’m not narcissistic enough to think everyone thinks like me. I recognize that most voters don’t follow politics, don’t engage with the news, and don’t really care much about learning who the candidates are.
The most important factor for all elections everywhere is name recognition. People want to feel like they know what they’re doing, even if they have made zero effort to engage in the process.
It is far too late for anyone other than Biden to introduce themselves to America.
Trump doesn’t need to convince people to vote for him. His acolytes will show up to vote. Trump just needs to convince everyone who won’t vote for him that it’s pointless to go to the polls. One neat little gift the DNC could give to Trump would be to say to all Democrats that their primaries don’t matter and there’s no reason to vote. Annointing a new candidate now, after people have cast their votes, would be a giant fuck you to every voter who has been screaming for better candidates over the last 6 years. Nothing will kill enthusiasm for voting quicker than passing the buck to someone new.
And let’s say they do pick someone else. They haven’t been vetted or tested. They haven’t campaigned in any states. They haven’t built the infrastructure or donor network or legal team. What if the new candidate has a scandal? Does the party hand the baton to yet another candidate? Should we leave the ballots blank? Do like a MLB trade, where we all vote for “A candidate to be named at a later date.”
Like it or not, we are stuck with Biden for this one. February 1st, we can all start talking about if he should step down, who should be Harris’ VP, whether the Dems have someone that can win in 2028, etc.
I’m curious, though, who is your candidate? You get to hand pick the name on the ballot across from Trump, who is it? Whitmer or Newsom? Buttigieg or Shapiro? If they are so great, why aren’t you calling to replace Harris on the ticket? I mean, that’s the stronger play, right? If you wanted Harris, you could just argue that a vote for Biden is a vote for Harris, because he’s really old and can resign as soon as he is sworn in. That’s the best of both strategies.
But it’s not Harris. So why not replace her on the ballot with your dream candidate? It solves the primary problem, since people were casting votes for Biden, and he’s still on the ballot. Plus, then the new person can introduce themselves to America, and Harris can retire to write her book.
So why argue against people trying to get a better candidate?
Conclusion: Sticking with Biden, becomes the worst chance at beating trump.
Don’t worry about anything else, just look at that logic.
Can you find any flaw in it?
But just so you don’t keep asking:
AOC
But again. All we’re talking about who can beat Trump. And if that logic up there isn’t something you disagree with, let me know. Just stripping this all down to a pure logic thing.
I’m optimistic this will work.
Because I don’t believe you are trying to get a better candidate. I believe you are trying to attack Biden so that Trump wins. Your arguments are ridiculous and nonsensical.
I already answered this one. I don’t believe it is “and everyone else.” I’m only speaking for myself.
Yes, some people don’t want Trump but won’t vote for Biden. There are more people who won’t vote for someone they don’t know. I don’t believe the former group outnumbers the latter.
No, there are no other politicians who both can and want to be the nominee right now. None.
You only reach that conclusion if you want Trump to win.
I cannot find any logic, so I also can’t find any flaws.
This reveals you aren’t serious at all. Every progressive would love to see AOC in the White House, but no true progressives are delusional enough to think she shouls challenge Joe Biden for the nomination. AOC has no interest in running for President, and has zero chance of raising the money or infrastructure required to mount a legitimate campaign. You might as well have named Jon Stewart or Kermit the Frog.
Again, no logic, just distractions.
I don’t believe you. But if you’re serious, grow up.
Thanks for responding!
If it took two days I’m sure that means you gave it an honest try.
Well, you complained that I didn’t respond, and wrote the same comment twice, so I figured it meant a lot to you.