Especially if when you asked him if anyone else could do the surgery, and he drifted off, rambled on a bit, then eventually said only “lord God” would prevent him from doing the surgery no matter what anyone else said…
It’s fucking insane so many people are defending him. They act like the president is meaningless but also that it has to be Biden. And they can’t give a single reason that isn’t easily disprovable.
They’ve tied their identity to Biden like trumpets to trump.
But like, at least with trump I get how idiots would fall for it. I have no idea why it’s happening with Biden.
Being given that illusion, doesn’t mean that’s actually the case. There areother options, they just involve more than bare minimum action, including the discomfort of confronting and unlearning the indoctrination we’ve been put through from birth, and facing up to the fact that the system is rigged by design and is working as intended, and that no matter which of the teams you pick, neither is there to serve you or society, but the owning class, and themselves, and that only playing by the rules they have set out will never result in that changing.
There is still time to replace Biden. After the convention there won’t be and a lot of ‘we need to replace Biden’ folks will return to supporting Biden because there is no other alternative. Until then they have an entirely justifiable voice.
The problem is that you can replace him with a better candidate, but that doesn’t mean the new candidates chances of winning are better. The DNC has to put up the candidate that gives the best chance of winning, not necessarily the best candidate.
I agreed with this in 2020, but am far from convinced this time around. As much as folks like to bury their head in the sand about Biden’s troubles, they are way more of an issue than in 2020, anyone who doesn’t at least see that is not being honest with themselves or wilfully delusional.
They might still think that even with Biden’s deterioration he’s the better candidate, but he still actually needs to be elected and I’m. It convinced the majority agree any more.
A much younger candidates with centrist tendencies would at least be able to present a vision that is more that ‘I can beat the other guy’ and lay out a vision that, as middle ground as it might be, could get folks motivated again.
a vision that is more that ‘I can beat the other guy’
As was the case here in the UK, it’s all they need to manufacture consent to maintain the status quo at best. In reality, the descent towards fascism continues no matter who is elected, and it will continue to do so as long as we play by the rules those in power have set out for us.
it’s fear mostly. If the democrat candidate changed this late in the run, it significantly lessens the chance that the party will win, and to a lot of them, they see it as a “I can’t vote for trump” type vote. Personally I feel if he drops out now, the party wouldn’t recover in time for election cycle which would basically give trump the win.
I more or less agree with that, it’s just I do know there will be people that wanted to vote exclusively Biden who will no longer vote because it wouldn’t be biden. And I believe it’s going to put the Democratic Party in the same situation the Republican party was when Trump originally started running again where it will basically split the party only this time instead of it happening super early in the campaign cycle it will happen super late in the campaign cycle therefore wouldn’t have the time to mend itself. Especially with him sharing similar ideologies with his campaign interests and not dropping
It’s fucking insane so many people are defending him.
It’s not. I only defend him when the criticism isn’t valid and he’s not even my president. People actively ignore that he has a speech impediment. People on this site repeat the lie that he has dementia. And everyone who remotely dislikes him keeps calling him genocide Joe as if he’s the one orchestrating the whole Israeli-Palestinian conflict alone, ignoring the history and political context.
They’ve tied their identity to Biden like trumpets to trump.
I hardly think that’s true. Biden’s personality is boring old white guy with no swag.
2012 debates, this is when his childhood stutter came back, because he’s almost 70 (get into that below) but he’s still lucid and very on top of his game:
He had a childhood speech impediment. When someone overcomes that, it’s because of a semi-concious action in the prefrontal cortex. As we age, that’s one of the first parts of our brains that takes a hit. And it is very easy to write off damage for years, but it’s accumulating.
That same part of the brain handles critical thinking, controlling emotions, and overcoming impliciti bias which is why there’s a stereotype of people “getting” racist as they age. They’re literally losing the part of the brain that say people outside of their in-group might not be murderers and thieves.
You don’t have to take my word for it. There is literal decades of science about how aging effects the brain.
Look at those videos. Biden isn’t starting down this path, he’s pretty fucking far down it, and were discussing if he can run the country during a fascist takeover.
You know Biden has been on camera for decades, right?
These rhetorical questions sound very condescending.
Yes, I know the basics of neurology and anatomy. I also know that you’re less likely to focus and use those mental functions if you’re exhausted from travel and sickness, which I’ve experienced before at less than half his age.
There is literal decades of science about how aging effects the brain.
Yes, geriatrics is a branch of medicine.
My point about his stutter is that people are pretending that he’s far worse than he is because he struggled that night with his speech. He’s not excellent and yet not outright incapable because his executive functions are all there. You can piece together what he’s trying to say but it’s just not coming out how he intends to. The format of the event where he gets cut off instead of taking a deep breath and trying again unfortunately accentuates it. And if he’s still incumbent and doing fine without any obvious characteristic signs of severe mental decline that are not expected for his age, why should we focus so hard on it? You can see that he’s fine in the ABC interview.
And I will not accept your claim that his stutter was only during his teenage years. Those are life-long conditions. I should know because I have one.
Yes, I know the basics of neurology and anatomy. I also know that you’re less likely to focus and use those mental functions if you’re exhausted from travel and sickness,
Did you not watch the interview?
He was back 12 days from the overseas trip before the debate, and Biden contradicted himself by saying it wasn’t a virus and then it was a cold.
Seriously, it’s a good interview, they brought up a lot of tough questions and would repeat when he wouldn’t answer.
My point about his stutter is that people are pretending that he’s far worse than he is because he struggled that night with his speech
But it was far worse than a stutter…
I literally just gave you a 36 year timeline of his public speaking abilities…
and doing fine without any obvious characteristic signs of severe mental decline that are not expected for his age, why should we focus so hard on it?
Because “for his age” is him breaking his own world record for “oldest American president”…
And four years ago it was already a valid concern.
You can see that he’s fine in the ABC interview.
I can not…
The one that I linked for “now” up there?
Like, even if you mean you personally consider that “fine” theres noway that you can think people don’t have a valid reason to question after the interview.
And I will not accept your claim that his stutter was only during his teenage years.
Fine, but I can’t provide links of every single time Biden spoke publicly on video and expect you to watch all of it to verify.
You just need to find one video of Biden stuttering before 2012 when I said it came back. Hell, let’s just say the 2012 video I linked. Give me a timestamp where he’s as bad as he is now and I’ll say I’m wrong.
Those are life-long conditions.
You think it’s literally impossible to overcome a stutter?
I don’t think you understand how common stuttering was back then for kids. Biden got rid of it by fifth grade, completely gone with no trace before he went to college.
Like, it happens now less commonly, but how do you think everyone with a childhood stutter continues to have a stutter? And how is Biden so special his disappeared for 60 years?
Especially if when you asked him if anyone else could do the surgery, and he drifted off, rambled on a bit, then eventually said only “lord God” would prevent him from doing the surgery no matter what anyone else said…
It’s fucking insane so many people are defending him. They act like the president is meaningless but also that it has to be Biden. And they can’t give a single reason that isn’t easily disprovable.
They’ve tied their identity to Biden like trumpets to trump.
But like, at least with trump I get how idiots would fall for it. I have no idea why it’s happening with Biden.
Because the other option is to support Trump. People don’t like Biden, they’re defending him because the other option is still worse
Being given that illusion, doesn’t mean that’s actually the case. There are other options, they just involve more than bare minimum action, including the discomfort of confronting and unlearning the indoctrination we’ve been put through from birth, and facing up to the fact that the system is rigged by design and is working as intended, and that no matter which of the teams you pick, neither is there to serve you or society, but the owning class, and themselves, and that only playing by the rules they have set out will never result in that changing.
There is still time to replace Biden. After the convention there won’t be and a lot of ‘we need to replace Biden’ folks will return to supporting Biden because there is no other alternative. Until then they have an entirely justifiable voice.
The problem is that you can replace him with a better candidate, but that doesn’t mean the new candidates chances of winning are better. The DNC has to put up the candidate that gives the best chance of winning, not necessarily the best candidate.
I agreed with this in 2020, but am far from convinced this time around. As much as folks like to bury their head in the sand about Biden’s troubles, they are way more of an issue than in 2020, anyone who doesn’t at least see that is not being honest with themselves or wilfully delusional.
They might still think that even with Biden’s deterioration he’s the better candidate, but he still actually needs to be elected and I’m. It convinced the majority agree any more.
A much younger candidates with centrist tendencies would at least be able to present a vision that is more that ‘I can beat the other guy’ and lay out a vision that, as middle ground as it might be, could get folks motivated again.
As was the case here in the UK, it’s all they need to manufacture consent to maintain the status quo at best. In reality, the descent towards fascism continues no matter who is elected, and it will continue to do so as long as we play by the rules those in power have set out for us.
I remember being told that exactly in the primary caucus in 2016 by a smug boomer when I was making the case for Bernie.
How did that turn out?
it’s fear mostly. If the democrat candidate changed this late in the run, it significantly lessens the chance that the party will win, and to a lot of them, they see it as a “I can’t vote for trump” type vote. Personally I feel if he drops out now, the party wouldn’t recover in time for election cycle which would basically give trump the win.
But that fear is hypothetical, we’ve never tried it.
We do know what happened to Jimmy Carter and trump. The last two incumbents that ran for elections with approval numbers similar to Biden.
I just can’t imagine a single person willing to vote Biden but not for any other D nominee.
So I don’t understand how any replacement can be considered worse than Biden.
Where are those “only Biden” voters?
If theryre the same ones that voted against Obama, well, there wasn’t enough to matter back then either.
I more or less agree with that, it’s just I do know there will be people that wanted to vote exclusively Biden who will no longer vote because it wouldn’t be biden. And I believe it’s going to put the Democratic Party in the same situation the Republican party was when Trump originally started running again where it will basically split the party only this time instead of it happening super early in the campaign cycle it will happen super late in the campaign cycle therefore wouldn’t have the time to mend itself. Especially with him sharing similar ideologies with his campaign interests and not dropping
I mean, the DNC isn’t putting a progressive in the race, it’s almost certainly gonna be Kamala if it happens.
If there are some who will only vote for Biden (I doubt it) I just can’t see them not coalescing around the DNCs pick.
Even if they do, it’ll be like 08 PUMA where it turned out to be just an incredibly vocal but tiny group
It’s not. I only defend him when the criticism isn’t valid and he’s not even my president. People actively ignore that he has a speech impediment. People on this site repeat the lie that he has dementia. And everyone who remotely dislikes him keeps calling him genocide Joe as if he’s the one orchestrating the whole Israeli-Palestinian conflict alone, ignoring the history and political context.
I hardly think that’s true. Biden’s personality is boring old white guy with no swag.
Stop the lies.
Don’t stop defending, the internet needs more users like you.
The world is where it is due to the sociopathic belief, lie now, figure out how to put out the fire later.
You know Biden has been on camera for decades, right?
1988, literally called the greatest orator of his generation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R1GB-6aIPw
2008, still great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89FbCPzAsRA
2012 debates, this is when his childhood stutter came back, because he’s almost 70 (get into that below) but he’s still lucid and very on top of his game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYcdSwbrErI
2020, lots of people had doubts, but between him and trump he squeaked out a very narrow win:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLvKaUi8VXw
Now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFyBapzgbSs
He had a childhood speech impediment. When someone overcomes that, it’s because of a semi-concious action in the prefrontal cortex. As we age, that’s one of the first parts of our brains that takes a hit. And it is very easy to write off damage for years, but it’s accumulating.
That same part of the brain handles critical thinking, controlling emotions, and overcoming impliciti bias which is why there’s a stereotype of people “getting” racist as they age. They’re literally losing the part of the brain that say people outside of their in-group might not be murderers and thieves.
You don’t have to take my word for it. There is literal decades of science about how aging effects the brain.
Look at those videos. Biden isn’t starting down this path, he’s pretty fucking far down it, and were discussing if he can run the country during a fascist takeover.
These rhetorical questions sound very condescending.
Yes, I know the basics of neurology and anatomy. I also know that you’re less likely to focus and use those mental functions if you’re exhausted from travel and sickness, which I’ve experienced before at less than half his age.
Yes, geriatrics is a branch of medicine.
My point about his stutter is that people are pretending that he’s far worse than he is because he struggled that night with his speech. He’s not excellent and yet not outright incapable because his executive functions are all there. You can piece together what he’s trying to say but it’s just not coming out how he intends to. The format of the event where he gets cut off instead of taking a deep breath and trying again unfortunately accentuates it. And if he’s still incumbent and doing fine without any obvious characteristic signs of severe mental decline that are not expected for his age, why should we focus so hard on it? You can see that he’s fine in the ABC interview.
And I will not accept your claim that his stutter was only during his teenage years. Those are life-long conditions. I should know because I have one.
Did you not watch the interview?
He was back 12 days from the overseas trip before the debate, and Biden contradicted himself by saying it wasn’t a virus and then it was a cold.
Seriously, it’s a good interview, they brought up a lot of tough questions and would repeat when he wouldn’t answer.
But it was far worse than a stutter…
I literally just gave you a 36 year timeline of his public speaking abilities…
Because “for his age” is him breaking his own world record for “oldest American president”…
And four years ago it was already a valid concern.
I can not…
The one that I linked for “now” up there?
Like, even if you mean you personally consider that “fine” theres noway that you can think people don’t have a valid reason to question after the interview.
Fine, but I can’t provide links of every single time Biden spoke publicly on video and expect you to watch all of it to verify.
You just need to find one video of Biden stuttering before 2012 when I said it came back. Hell, let’s just say the 2012 video I linked. Give me a timestamp where he’s as bad as he is now and I’ll say I’m wrong.
You think it’s literally impossible to overcome a stutter?
I don’t think you understand how common stuttering was back then for kids. Biden got rid of it by fifth grade, completely gone with no trace before he went to college.
Like, it happens now less commonly, but how do you think everyone with a childhood stutter continues to have a stutter? And how is Biden so special his disappeared for 60 years?