EDIT: no, I don’t sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they’re losing an argument ;)

        • seahorse [Ohio]@midwest.socialEnglish
          9·
          2 years ago

          That’s different than arguing with people on the internet. Daryl Davis shows these people their shared humanity face-to-face. All I’ve ever seen from letting fash “debate” people on the internet is them slowly spreading their ideology to vulnerable people who are viewing the same conversations. Saying stuff that sounds reasonable on the surface like, “not everyone you disagree with is a nazi” even though they want to kill minorities as if that motive vs not wanting that to happen/doing everything in your power to make sure it doesn’t happen is a simple disagreement.

        • Abel@lemmy.nerdcore.social
          8·
          2 years ago

          I did that for years. Many years. It burned me out and made me much more of a thin-skinned and intolerant person with those around me in real life.

          I love places where they willingly come to redeem themselves (like r/IncelExit) but otherwise I just stray very, very far. It took a heavy toll on my mind.

          It is a noble thing but one that shouldn’t be required of most users.

            • Abel@lemmy.nerdcore.social
              4·
              2 years ago

              Honestly I still discuss online but it’s very rare. Mostly with teenagers since they are usually more open.

              There is a problem of even where to confront with reason. Most of the time you hinder more than you help on mainstream social media, because more comments on a post will boost it on the algorithm and distribute the original poster’s message further while they remain wilfully ignorant.

    • Someonelol@lemmy.ml
      61·
      2 years ago

      Well whenever regular people go in to their communities they get ridiculed and have their comments removed or even banned, so what’s the difference?

        • mustardman@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          5·
          2 years ago

          I wish we lived in a functional democracy where you can go “high, when they go low”. The only thing that has resulted in is eroding the democratic system by ceeding power that undemocratic individuals will keep for themselves.

          Edit: To add, I believe that Michelle Obama was right when we said that, but the world has radically changed since then.

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
      41·
      2 years ago

      Yeah because normalising fascism in 2016 so that actual nazis came into the light and the mainstream sure helped make them less destructive and made them have less of an echochamber! Oh wait…

    • michaelrose@lemmy.mlEnglish
      31·
      2 years ago

      If you have the choice between an eco chamber where 10% of people are nazis and say nazi shit to other nazis and normalizing nazism to the point where mainstream gathering places are full of crazy nazi babble and having 15% nazis I would chose to contain the poison.