A Lahaina resident talks about the recovery efforts after a wildfire swept through the Maui town.

    • Screeslope@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      I wouldn’t talk about a meltdown of society here - this is a natural disaster, not the sacking of Rome. In due time help will arrive, people will bury the dead and rebuild. Though I agree it makes you appreciate how we take things for granted until one day they aren’t.

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        1 year ago

        Climate change caused this so I don’t know that you can really call it natural. Unless you include things people do as natural (I tend to but that’s not how most people use the word.)

        • Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world
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          I mean, humans are perfectly natural beings. Everything we do to cause climate change comes from natural sources.

          Technically it’s natural. It’s just more accurate to say man-made.

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            That’s just semantics. If you go by that logic literally nothing in the universe isn’t natural meaning the word natural would have no meaning.

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            1 year ago

            Yeah, I agree.

            Honestly I think the word natural doesn’t mean anything. Is an anthill unnatural? If not, neither is a city or a computer.

            • Widowmaker_Best_Girl@lemmy.world
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              I always thought it was a little arrogant of us humans to assume if we created something, or cause something to happen, that it isn’t considered part of the natural world. Like, of course it is. As you said, anthills are natural, beaver dams are natural, so skyscrapers are just as natural as a bird’s nest.

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                1 year ago

                Yeah, we like to pretend we’re separate from nature. Then we get surprised when our actions destroy our environment.

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      1 year ago

      It’s a wildfire on a very small and very arid island. Not exactly representative of society at large.

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        1 year ago

        …yet. looks at record breaking forest fires in Canada. Yes I know it’ll take a lot more to have a drastic impact but we’ve been neglecting our impact so it’s just a matter of time.