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      You Linux supremecists are so edgy…

      I use Linux sometimes, too… But like… This shit is getting so old.

      We get it, you like Linux. Now let people talk about other platforms without constantly talking about your platform.

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        I only have Linux on my servers at home and at work, as well as on my laptop, and I agree with that, it’s arrogant and getting so damn old. Lemmy has such a boner for Linux and loves shoving it in everyone’s faces.

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          You do realize that Lemmy is an opensource platform, which runs on Linux, and is maintained by volunteers who are passionate about Linux? Does it really come as surprise that Lemmy is full of Linux enthusiasts?

          If you don’t like all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a proprietary social network instead, maybe one with a red alien logo or with a blue ‘f’…

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            Being an enthusiast doesn’t mean you have to preach about it everywhere you go. This post isn’t talking about Linux whatsoever. They’re starting to remind me of religious nuts that always make everything about their religion.

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        your platform.

        You do realize you’re posting this on a opensource platform, which runs on Linux, and is maintained by volunteers who are enthusiastic about this stuff?

        If you don’t like all the Linux talk here, feel free to move to a proprietary platform instead, maybe one with a red alien logo…

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          People like you make me so fucking embarrassed to be a Linux user.

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        Because Linux, by its very nature, is the solution to these kinds problems, but if you insist on suffering through using Windows thats on you.

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            So what? I was not talking about situations where there is vendor lock-in. I needed Windows for Photoshop in the past, I’m not that dumb.

            I’m talking specifically about stuff like ads, privacy, unremovable bloatware, forced logins and such. And I stand by what I said: Linux by its very nature will not have these issues. And its very reasonable for people to recommend it in face of those.

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                If you use Windows you know they will re-enable that on the next update, after you took your time turning all the garbage off. That was the final drop in the bucket for me to switch away from Windows some years ago actually.

                I do agree Windows can be pretty decent when you do that, but if I am to have all this work to set up my machine, and then having them undo it, then I might as well learn a system that actually does what I tell it to.

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                    What really bothers me is simping for corporations. I’ve had Windows reset my stuff multiple times to the point I had a script to set it up every update. At this point I decided it would be less work to switch to an OS that would not do this. You said yourself you need a whole procedure, not because the system itself is bad, but because of bullshit they tack on top of it.

                    I understand Linux will not play nice on all hardware but my Ubuntu install has been perfect for 6 years now (through changing motherboards and cloning to another disk).

                    I absolutely never said Windows is 100% bad and nobody should use it and Linux is completely perfect. I’ve even been saying the opposite on this thread. I needed to use it at many points.

                    But if you want to get rid of ads, bullshit like the OP article, Linux is the only sane solution and I stand by it, it is much better to learn a new system than constantly deal with issues on another just because it is what you are used to.

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                It’s good, but you can’t know for sure if you removed all bloatware. Also if you install updates you can easily miss newly added ones.

                Windows is like Reddit. There is more content and users, but we use Lemmy for a reason. So I’m not surprised that many people joke about GNU/Linux in this thread. GNU/Linux is not for everyone, but so do Lemmy.

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            I hope you’ve got backup solution if Windows ever prevents you from working.

            It must be important if you’re prioritizing it over your software freedom…

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                Hopefully a reinstall is the most you ever need and there is no chance Microsoft would ever happen to make changes that shaft you.

                Software freedom is about being in control over your own computing. If being in control of your research and the results is important then I think it should be important to you too.

                I consider myself like a smoker telling you smoking causes cancer in regards to my use of proprietary software. I am proud of the efforts I’ve made over the years to reduce using proprietary software.

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                  Can’t be in control of your own computing if you can’t do your computing at all. From their responses, it’s clear that Linux is not supported for hardware essential to their workflow. How is this difficult to understand?

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                    There is no misunderstanding there. For free software alternatives to be created you need people to want it and contribute to creating it (not just software). It’s not obvious to me they lament the lack of free software alternatives and their lack of control over their important computing.

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          Last time I used Linux it came with its own bag of problems like hunting down drivers and incompatibility issues and random bugs that wouldn’t let me use the wifi without digging up solutions in some obscure forum. Maybe it’s not the case anymore but I don’t hear many people lauding it for its competitive UX and ease of use.

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            GNOME’s UX has come a looong way in just like 3 years.

            I assume the same is true for KDE now that Valve is investing money in it.

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                I understand how it can feel that way when you are not used to Linux. I felt the same way in the beggining when I was learning it.

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            Huh, my experience is the exact opposite. On Linux there was zero hunting for drivers of any kind. At all. They were all just included in the Linux kernel. Out of the box drivers for everything I had.

            On windows it was: ok first I need my motherboard chipset driver, now I need my WiFi driver, and now my graphics driver, now the driver for this microphone, and finally the driver for this controller.

            Each of which I had to search online for the right website, download an installer, run an installer, and delete the installer afterwards.

            To me, that was a much more clunky experience.

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        I mean… Linux does solve the problem described. Why pay for a platform with the problem when the solution is free?

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            You’ve never bought a laptop with Windows?

            But aside from that, even if you downloaded an ISO then cracked it, you’re still paying for it in the same way you pay for Google services - with your personal information.

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            In Soviet Russia, Windows pay for you!

            Edit: also…fix you!

            Edit: I wonder which is the bigger threat to the average Russian: windows or Ween-dows PeeCee…? You decide

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              Most people who think Windows came with the computer for free don’t know that the licence cost is baked into the total cost.

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        Honestly, your bitching was far more intrusive than this unharmful joke. That joke was actually funny.

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          You’re either being intellectually disingenuous, or you’re new to Lemmy. Every goddamn thread about Windows here ends up littered with “jokes” about how great Linux is, and how shitty Windows is.

          It’s beyond exhausting at this point.

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            And the goddamn distros can’t even support a fingerprint reader nor a nvidia card, or forces you to do some terminal voodoo to make the thing work, or crashes without warning after an update.

            But somehow that’s better than Windows. -_-

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              to be fair its not Linux that doesnt support nvidia, its the other way around.

              and it works fine if you dont have more specific use cases.

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              It’s Nvidia that has poor support for some standards, not the other way around.

              And it’s not like people don’t run into issues, probably more often, with Windows update. The last time I updated Windows my audio got fucked and even rolling back the update and reinstalling audio drivers didn’t work. I had to reinstall windows entirely, which takes a bizarrely long time.

              And yeah, IMO, it’s far better than Windows, and it’s not even close. But it’s just a tool. Use Windows if you want to use Windows.

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            Windows fanboys will justify anything just because it locks them in and forces them to use it. People with stockholm syndrone justifying terrible anti-consumer decisions by Microsoft are the ones really exhausting me.

            Use it if you want to, or need to, but don’t be mad at the people actually trying to come up with and improve the solutions we have.

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                Funny how my Linux PC works flawlessly without intervention then.

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                Funny, this is my main gripe with Windows. It doesn’t just work in the same way Linux does. I get an update, it takes 5-25 seconds and everything still works, every time.

                I get a Windows update and I’m filled with dread crossing my fingers everything still works when it finally reboots, and that it hasn’t “accidentally” reset all the telemetry settings I turned off.

                Plus not having to hunt for drivers and use weird installers for software that I have to hunt for online. Some windows listening to my dark mode preference and others not, etc etc.

                To me, my PC is just a tool. I don’t care what runs on it, as long as it works reliably, is intuitive, looks cohesive, and doesn’t get in my way. Windows unfortunately doesn’t hold up to that.

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                    Have you considered that the reason people complain about Windows Update is because Windows Update is frustrating to use? Or is that too complex a thought?