If talking about his authoritarian plans is enough to make people upset, it’s clearly the people getting upset that are in the wrong.

I hope the Democrats don’t take the bait and tone down how dire the situation is. (And again, they have not been calling for violence)

Probably timed so they can say “he is being baselessly attacked, his case was thrown out!” as much as possible

Sorry I did change my post, it wasn’t 'ninjaing" to realize I made a mistake. I realized he is only accused of child rape, so even for a shit like Trump I should have still said ‘accused’ at least. But he still a convicted rapist, that alone should disqualify him.

On that note, I had heard the Biden accusations were false, and that she had disavowed that stuff, hence my comments. If it’s true, he should be disqualified too I agree. (Again, Id someone else running on the democratic ticket, as I said). Im a parent too, and that is extremely fucked up if true.

So if I don’t lay out everything in a 900 page document you don’t believe Trump might try some authoritarian stuff? It doesn’t take long to find it.

Here are a few highlights outlined in project 2025 that would effectively make Trump a dictator:

"The Project 2025 blueprint proposes abolishing the Department of Education, transforming the FBI into a political task force, reinstituting what’s known as Schedule F. That’s an executive authority that would be instituted by Trump to grow the number of political appointees across the civil service.

And they also want to install roughly 20,000 loyal civil servants across agencies. And they have been preparing for this. Project 2025 leaders have called those loyalists — quote — “conservative warriors.” They have called them an army. They have called — of weaponized conservatives.

And they want to essentially make lawyers across all federal agencies, not just the Justice Department, any legal counsel, they want to make them loyal Trump — loyal — loyalists to Trump."

(From https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/a-look-at-the-project-2025-plan-to-reshape-government-and-trumps-links-to-its-authors)

Project 2025 also includes (quotes from a PBS article)

"Specifically on restricting LGBTQ rights, what that details is reinstating a transgender military ban, limiting LGBTQ workplace discrimination protections. Currently, under the law, sexual orientation, and gender identity are protected. It would rescind health care protections for transgender people and urge Congress to define gender as male and female, fixed at birth.

Trump has repeatedly said, also, William, that he would ban gender-affirming care for minors. And this playbook makes pretty clear that his plan — this plan also is trying to stop any and all acknowledgement of an acceptance of gender identity and LGBTQ people, period.

And so, throughout this blueprint, there’s some pretty striking language where government — saying that government officials should only recognize marriages between a man and a woman and that a man and a woman are the ideal natural family structure.

Also, in addition to that, William, Trump has outlined a number of policies that essentially help minority groups and that they would be on the chopping block. So, when it comes to Project 2025 cuts to diversity, what the plan would do is delete diversity, equity and inclusion from every piece of legislation, remove diversity, equity, inclusion offices from federal agencies, curtail the teaching of race and racism, and urge Congress to ban federal funds for Critical Race Theory training.

Essentially, William, Trump has vowed on the campaign trail to terminate all DEI programs."

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-a-second-trump-presidency-could-impact-the-lgbtq-community I have trans friends and family, this is very fucked up.

Add to that three of his appointed conservative supreme court justices just gave him immunity to do basically anything (as long as he claims it’s ‘official’), and his calling leftists extremists and “vermin” to be rooted out and punishing anyone who doesn’t fall in line, saying migrants should fight for entertainment…

Another article outlining Trump and the GOPs authoritarian plans: https://www.salon.com/2023/10/09/the-rights-red-caesar-plan-a-new-order-keeps-marching-forward/

I wasn’t aware of Biden doing those things or saying such things about veterans, and I really wasn’t trying to gloss over it or change the subject. I shouldn’t assume just because I haven’t heard it, it isn’t true - and as someone on the left I’ve only heard of Trump’s negatives in this regard. I won’t pretend I know, or understand what it’s like to be so disrespected after serving. Also, I’m sorry if I made you feel disrespected, I wasn’t trying to do that.

But I still think Trump is clearly the more dangerous choice - hell any Republican would be seeing what they’ve done in red states, not to mention how he plans on not conceding if he loses. (Not how democracy works)

I don’t think you can convince me otherwise, and I realize I’m going to change your mind either. (But I will be more careful in future talking about military issues I know squat about) Sorry if I missed a few points and questions, it’s not deliberate if I did.

I never said Biden was the best candidate, not at all.
I think someone else would be better also. I’m not arguing he’s great, just that he’s still a But he’s still way better than Trump, even with all those problems. I agree he’s not even close to the best option and should be doing more, he’s still the better choice when he’s going up against Trump.

I agree that they should run someone else also, but even with all his problems hes still a way better choice.

Trump is a convicted rapist - see the E Jean Carrol case. The Biden assaulting his daughter thing has been debunked https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ashley-biden-diary-afraid/ There’s lots of evidence Trump spent time with Epstein- he flew on his plane seven times? There are many other sexual assault accusations: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/assault-allegations-donald-trump-recapped

As for project 2025 it was written by his advisors, along with the heritage foundation (who worked closely with his administration as well).

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-video-project-2025-colossal-mandate/

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c977njnvq2do

Also I never said it didn’t matter about getting the troop numbers wrong. He lost a son who was a soldier, when has he disparaged veterans? Trump is the one doing major shitting on the military and veterans:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/09/08/trump-mocked-us-military-troops-losers-whole-life/

Trump is lying about being a child rapist, he has clear photographic proof that he was deeply involved with Epstein. He’s also lied about his plans to institute a christo-fascist state, which seems significantly worse than getting some statistics wrong.

I mean, overlooking troops dying is more significant - but he has cracked down on the border. He tried passing a border control law but the Republicans killed it.

In any case all of they pale in comparison to the stuff Trump lies about, and what he intends on doing. Which is essentially everything. Trump lies about everything, no matter how concrete and proven like Daniels case.

Arguing that they are both liars and therefore equally as bad seems ludicrous.

Most all of these sound like easily refutable right wing talking points. Especially the hunter biden laptop, where has this been covered by a legit news source? I thought it was debunked as a disinformation campaign.

He tried passing legislation to help the border crisis but the Republicans killed it.

From all the media I’ve consumed it sounds like they’re putting feelers out for running Kamala instead, I think of Bidens polling doesn’t improve they may do this. (Or someone else that polls better)

I still think there is a chance he’ll drop out, but the optics of being pressured to drop out aren’t good, I think they’re worried that might hurt them also.

So if it happens it’ll be spun as Biden choosing to do so (if he continues lagging enough in the polls)

But as long as he pulls better than the alternatives they’re going to keep going with him, so… Hopefully closer to the election people at least choose to vote against the far far far worse, fashy choice in any case

Between Trump and Biden, Biden is the one you think is the big liar? What’s he lied about?

(And is it something that somehow makes him worse than the compulsive lying fascist guy?)

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I mean, has there been an instance where someone else within the party snipes the nomination before the second term?

I love my switch, but speaking of replacements I’ve gone through too many replacement joycons.

Id argue a lot of the same undecided voters might not have heard this before, and might be swayed. (Also might be swayed learning about project 2025 etc.)

But the more we belabour Biden being old and needing to be replaced, the same undecided (not paying as much attention) voters might think there’s something wrong with him and sit out, or vote for Trump. I think that’s the danger of focusing on this too much

I mean, you are correct also. These are all good points.

But it’s just becoming the only thing people are talking about, at a time where pretty major trump news (Epstein papers) should be the major talking point. It’s overshadowing everything.

We get it, he’s old. But we should 100% be putting the effort of talking about how he’s old into raising the alarm about Trump.

Concern about Biden should pale in comparison to the concern people should have about a potential Trump term.

Biden might run, he might get replaced. Either way him or really ANY potential Democratic replacement are a thousand times better than Trump.

(Accidentally deletedy previous post, sorry) but you make very good points. I wasn’t saying I thought he was the best candidate, it was more that’s what I thought their reasoning was for still running.

I overall also think someone else should run, that wasn’t my point. More that we should be focusing on how awful a candidate Trump is (and all his crimes, victims, his horrible plans for office) - and while these are all excellent points, that the Democrat candidate is almost insignificant in comparison. The Democrats establishment should be on the attack, on the defense. (Being super general). Make that the motivation to vote Democrat.

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I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, but we should also be aware of how this is shouldn’t be the major discussion we are having. Whether Biden runs or not, it will be the same advisors, the same policies. We’re allowing the media to run with the “Biden is old is somehow more of a concern” talking point.

There’s many more reasons for Trump to be called on to drop out, yet everyone is focusing so hard on Biden it’s overshadowing the story of Trump’s Epstein activity among other things.

And while we are arguing about whether Biden should or shouldn’t, Trump and his supporters are getting away with all manner of evil shit. Even if the Democrats picked another candidate I’m sure the media would then focus on how Biden dropping out somehow meant the Democrats were bad etc. not saying it shouldn’t be discussed, just don’t let it be the only discussion.

I highly recommend Mario Maker 2 to everyone who hasn’t tried it, especially if you have kids with an interest in learning game design. It’s a great tool.

I concur, Doom 2016 is excellent it’s a good one to start with

Glad it’s going to be recorded, wonder what the acoustics would be like in a place like that?