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Sorry, don’t have a source on that. Scrolled a million bananas on reddit this year and everything is a blur. :)
I’m assuming DTCC just watches Computershare’s broker for Computershare’s transactions. Doubt they would ever contact Computershare and leave a trail.
Check out TheUltimator5’s posts on recurring buy fills: https://www.reddit.com/user/theultimator5/
I think 6days1week had the Computershare recurring buy dates marked on a calendar, or maybe TheUltimator5 mentions in one of his posts.
I used the most basic average $1.2 million buy every 2 weeks and used only $14 a share as an example. So 85,714 shares * 6 times a quarter = 514,284 shares from just recurring buys each quarter. Mileage will vary of course on GME share price at the time.
I think the DTCC side can see all broker transactions.
The DRS count incrementing 76.0m > 76.26m > 76.6m seems “ok, no ‘major’ f–kery” but still a bit on the low side. Which partly leads to questioning if we are overestimating retail investor purchasing power and how many are DRS-ing in that timeframe.
Without access to the Computershare dashboard to see daily account and count changes, we’re left in the dark guessing. Like the +4.2m for 3/22/2023 versus +.5m on 10/29/2022. One theory is “they” load up DRS accounts, then many months later drain shares to confuse retail.
Yeah, I wish the default Lemmy editor included tables like reddit’s Fancy editor. I copy-paste from my reddit post (in Markdown mode) and it preserves the tables over in Lemmy.
Thank you, adding inflation for next week’s post.
DRSbot witnessing is pretty much down to one reddit user now (shorthand we refer to as NoVac user).
DRSbot has been offline more than online the past 3 weeks. I manually track DRS posts during its offline time. From keeping an eye on DRS posts the past 3-4 months, nothing alarming jumps out.
Was discussing the DRS count f–kery tonight, and there isn’t much reason to measure and estimate when “they” can consistently mess with the DRS numbers over the past 2 years.
I think a better gauge may be estimating money spent by retail purchasing GME per quarter. It was around $1.2 million average per 6 recurring Computershare buys per quarter. Then say a massively conservative $200k per other trading day. So:
If average $1.2 million spent per bi-weekly purchase, and say $14 a share, multiply by 6 for one GME quarter:
Other 54 trading days:
Total:
514,284 + 771,390 = +1,285,674 DRS shares a quarter.
There, done. I don’t have to look at another DRS post again, ever. :)
Yeah, the Youtube algorithm is interesting. I get recommended a bunch of AMC, stock market crash, and GME bashing videos sometimes.
Same with Reddit recommendations. I looked at 1 meltdown post maybe 14 months ago, haven’t looked at an AMC post in 2 years, but the algorithm still drums up meltdown and AMC posts on my main page.
I’ve watched Richard Newton’s youtube videos for a while. He’s been very helpful explaining what’s possibly happening via swaps, ETFs, OpEx, cycles, derivatives, etc. Also nice past videos explaining GameStop SEC filings, DRS, GameStop marketplace, former wallet, Loopring, ImmutableX, NFTs, ethereum, crypto, etc.
That’s where the SEC filing oddities kick in. Is it strange that 200,000 Computershare accounts are only progressing at:
But simple math of when just ONE share a month for 200,000 accounts would be +600,000 a quarter?
It’s possible many of us are overestimating the 200,000 accounts’ purchasing power. Or something funny is going on.
This next Form 10-Q data point should be interesting!
I’d hazard a guess that we’re well past Other of 61,801,800 shares in brokerages.
If only 200,000 Computershare accounts hold 76,038,774 plus non-conservative 50% additional stuck in IRAs (38,019,387) = 114,058,161 shares
Number of retail holders (non-Computershare account) | Number of shares | Total shares |
---|---|---|
2,000,000 | 50 | 100,000,000 |
4,000,000 | 50 | 200,000,000 |
2,000,000 | 100 | 200,000,000 |
2,000,000 | 150 | 300,000,000 |
2,000,000 | 200 | 400,000,000 |
2,000,000 | 250 | 500,000,000 |
2,000,000 | 300 | 600,000,000 |
2,000,000 | 350 | 700,000,000 |
4,000,000 | 175 | 700,000,000 |
I don’t think it’d be a stretch to say 4,000,000 retail holders each hold 50 shares = 200,000,000
29,138,064 + 33,999,059 + 32,373,815 + 14,339,510 + 38,540,578 + ~60,000,000 reported short + 114,058,161 + 200,000,000 = 522,449,187
If 4,000,000 hold 175 shares = 700,000,000. 522,449,187 + additional 500,000,000 = 1,022,449,187
Further ruminating, using very conservative numbers.
Not even using 200,000 Computershare accounts. Say just 100,000 accounts.
Is it a stretch to say 100,000 accounts DRS 5 shares a month? 100,000 x 5 shares a month x 3 months = 1,500,000 a quarter
5 shares a month * $22 avg = $110 a month * 3 months = $330 a quarter
Or only 1 to 3 shares a month for 200,000 accounts:
It seems the underlying question is if the DTCC has any effect on what Computershare provides GameStop for the DRS numbers.
I’m assuming Computershare the transfer agent keeps its own share count and provides the information to GameStop.
Assuming there is no DTCC step where the DTCC tells Computershare what’s on DTCC side, so Computershare has to fudge their numbers to match, then tell GameStop.
Has there been any information that shows the flow of share count data is:
If we include the non-official DRS numbers with the official GameStop SEC filings:
Date | DRS in Millions | Notes |
---|---|---|
10/30/21 | 20.80 | SEC filing |
01/29/22 | 35.60 | SEC filing |
04/30/22 | 50.80 | SEC filing |
05/26/22 | 47.01 | List of stockholders |
07/30/22 | 71.30 | SEC filing |
10/29/22 | 71.80 | SEC filing |
03/22/23 | 76.00 | SEC filing |
04/21/23 | 76.26 | List of stockholders |
06/01/23 | 76.60 | SEC filing |
06/20/23 | 75.33 | Mainstar rugpull -1,270,566 |
08/31/23 | 75.40 | SEC filing |
The May 2023 visit to GameStop HQ for the 04/21/23 list of stockholders numbers:
Using your numbers:
From a dollar amount $1,352,940,000 / 200,000 Computershare accounts = $6,765 each / $22 avg = +308 shares each over 10 months (31 shares a month).
Plausible, but it may be tough for the average holder to spend $676 a month on GME shares. And without the whales buying as much as they initially did, it skews the numbers down too.
Whoops, I think you may be misinterpreting the spreadsheet and graph I put together. I’ll rename the labels some and pick a less “Computershare purple” color in this week’s graph to clarify more.
I wanted to highlight that just 200k Computershare accounts owned 75.5 million DRS shares. And these 200k CS accounts also have a conservative 25% more shares stuck in IRA accounts (not DRS’d). So 75.5 million DRS’d and 18.9 million stuck in IRA accounts. Rather than 85-90 million DRS’d in Computershare.
I was trying to convey that just 200k CS accounts hold 75.5 million DRS and 18.9 million in IRA accounts. And the “remaining 62 million shares” likely doesn’t add up if we think about the total number of retail brokerage, margin, and IRA accounts holding GME.
Are you me? 😄 I was looking over the 10-Q (again) on Friday night. More of a “How is the stock price down 65% since stock split via dividend when all the SEC filing numbers are better than ever?”
We all know the answer, but I just have to remind myself.