I don’t disagree with that. Believe what you want. Freedom from religion wouldn’t stop you from believing what you want. It stops you from pushing it onto others.

That would be a good point of France wasn’t just an example. I’m not saying to emulate them exactly.

It helps if you’re my target audience. That’s people who know what an example is.

Good luck with figuring out things in life.

I don’t have the patience to hold your hand and explain what an example is. Good luck with figuring things out in life.

Okay, since you need it spelled out… France may not have appropriately applied its freedom from religion, but that isn’t the point. The point is a country like France doesn’t just have freedom from a religious state, but also extends that further, and that’s the part we (the US) are missing. You got hung up on the detail instead of paying attention to the meaning I was conveying, hence missing the forest through the trees. There is nothing profound about it at all, just saying you’re looking far too deeply instead of looking at the bigger picture of what was said.

You’re also missing the forest through the trees.

Fair enough.

I think you missed the forest through the trees on that one. I agree that you can’t half ass it though.

That’s not freedom from religion. That’s freedom from a religious state.

I’m not sure that’s true. Typically, the other party wins after a two term president.

Kind of, but not really. Look at France, they have freedom from religion. They’re not allowed to be religious fanatics in public. It’s why they banned the burkini.

No it doesn’t, and that’s the problem.

I’m starting to think the best move might not be to replace Biden, but to swap out Kamala… Kamala has lower approval than Biden and missed her chance to make an impact during this term. If Biden had a strong VP, the question of his health wouldn’t be as big.

Its the parts fault if they cant get an easy vote, not the voter’s

Ultimately, yes that’s the case. It’s the candidates job to attract voters.

And that’s great, that’s what I do in the primaries. I’m not about to risk a Trump presidency just to place a vote for a 3rd party that I probably also don’t actually like. Just plug the nose and stop the larger threat.

Whatever helps you sleep at night if Trump gets elected.

This vote is far too important to protest vote. Especially now that I live in a swing state.

Technically I’m voting for Biden, in reality I’m voting against Trump. I really wish I had a better option…

Tens of millions is drastically understating tens of billions.