Maybe they’re trying to show us the logical conclusion of moral absolutism?

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That’s the goal ain’t it? Imma need y’all’s help.

They won’t need maintenance if they’re a general purpose intelligence. A technology that has the possibility to free all of humanity from scarcity, has the possibility to finally collapse dominance of aristocracy for good. Sure, they’ll try and put themselves on top somehow. But once the knowledge exists, anyone can create a version for the greater good.

That’s the cool part, you won’t. If everything crucial is automated, people can drive things forward for passion rather than for money. Of course, this would effectively collapse capitalism, which won’t happen painlessly.

Well wouldn’t SCOTUS not accept the changes until they deem them valid? (which they won’t)

Ron DeSantis already tried. He only failed because Trump is still around. The GOP learned that they need to wait for him to leave the scene before they try again.

Agreed. And assassinating Trump would have united and emboldened them.

I hope you’re right, but during Mussolini’s time the Axis was failing and I don’t think taking the power of his followers was worth the target that would be painted on your back from every other world power. The MAGA cult stands to take control of the most powerful nation in the world with the undying support of its followers permitting any action including taking away their own freedom. I don’t think that’s something that will be left on the table once Trump is gone.

He’s the only one because he’s still around. If he died yesterday we’d have someone new leading the charge by election time.

You’ve specifically pointed out ideologies that weren’t allowed to die because of how oppressed they were. I’m not suggesting we shouldn’t have fought the Nazis, but victory inherently creates an oppressed underdog that people love to rally around.

The ideologies that die are the ones that fail on their own and people lose faith in. Think monarchies, feudalism, mercantilism, the OG version of Communism, colonialism, etc… So ideally we won’t want to use force if at all possible. Let them lose election after election until they realize they’ve alienated too many people to ever be successful.

And you think they’ll just quietly pack up and leave once Trump is gone? All that power is going to be just left on the table? No one’s going to capitalize on being bombastic and saying the quiet part out loud to sit on the throne themselves?

And how do you kill the ideology? By having the most successful voice of it ultimately accomplish nothing and die as a sad old man.

There’s a reason his rhetoric has been: “The election was stolen!” Because that feeling is powerful, that they were right on the cusp of doing something great, if only the enemy hadn’t poisoned it. It’s got the right mix of victimization and hope that really motivates a movement. You’ll get that 10x now that he’s victimized. And you’d get it 20x if he’s martyred.

I think you’re forgetting what already happened with Ron DeSantis. Without the real Trump to shut them down, his potential successors will come out of the woodwork drooling at the sight of his empty throne.

They’re still waving the Confederate flag. What makes you think bullets will kill this ideology in round 2?

Yes, you’ve outlined the dumpster fire quite nicely. I’m saying don’t throw a can of gas into it. The only way this movement dies, is for it to fail. You can’t shoot it dead. Not without a civil war. And even then, we see the Confederate flags waving to this day.

With all respect, your argument has a pretty obvious emotional valence. You don’t care if the result is 1:1, you care that it happened in a way that makes you uncomfortable. Art can be an outlet for self expression and no one is taking that away. What’s it to you if I enjoy asking an AI for art?

The fact of the matter is, capitalism has never been a good place for artists who want to follow their dream. If that’s something you want, then I’d suggest supporting the end of all work for money that automation provides. Then people can truly work on whatever they care about all day and not have to worry about feeding themselves.

No better fuel for an extremist ideology then having a martyr. Trump isn’t the problem, it’s the millions who listen to him.

Yeah people are saying “Too bad he missed!” They don’t realize that the real problem isn’t Trump, It’s his cult of millions. The best way this shakes out is for him to lose the election and his relevancy. Then for him to quietly die of old age.

Yeah, Trump’s first presidency showed that he was a moron. He’s not the dangerous part. The dangerous part are the millions that worship him. Assassination, or worse, attempted assassination, is a surefire way to make sure that ideology never dies.

A murdered Trump is the fastest way to ensure his cult of goons stick around forever. I can already imagine the che guevara style shirts being worn next to the Confederate flag for a century to come.

Actually, scratch that… A botched assassination would be the fastest way. Because now he’s a martyr without having to die.