In some ways money is actually better than candy.

I’m not sure I’m catching your drift. What sort of verification? And how does verification (whatever type) “turn into propaganda”?

The necktie cutting as I know it is a Karneval thing, specifically the Thursday before Karneval, called Weiberfasnacht (“Wives’/women’s carnival”).

Shit, you’re right (same in Cologne). But I seem to remember something similar from Walpurgisnacht; women being in control, somewhat.

That makes sense actually. I guess I got lucky to get visited by very friendly kids despite having no decorations at all. There didn’t seem to be many about anyhow.

they came back

Yeah this was part of my question, thanks for confirming. OTOH which adult would refuse to give out candy if they knew that’s the consequence. Maybe it was a gamble.

Oh, I thought it was the kids that are supposed to trick the adults?

You turned it around. Nice. OTOH I love to make kids happy. OTOH I knew the single group that came to my house last night and I know they’re plenty capable of mischief and I wish we still had traditions that really allow for that.

Sounds like something you’d do at Walpurgisnacht. I remember women actually carrying scissors to cut off men’s … neckties or other parts of clothing. Or nighttime carnival where we’d just make infernal noise throughout the city center.

I miss the mischief.

The way you describe it, Southern Germany or Austria or Switzerland?

Thanks for an honest answer. I suspect most commenters here are larping.

I thought that. Kids would have to a) come prepared for tricks (eggs, TP…) and b) not be recognizable. And I guess it also required that sweets/treats were more precious and less ubiquitous than they are today.

I think most traditional feasts used to have some sort of good/bad dualism built in, but over time the bad part got removed.

So how does that work, what does the ritual demand then? Do kids do it immediately or do they circle back later? Do they come prepared for that outcome? And why would any adult ever answer like that if they know that’s what’s going to happen? Or is it enough to not open the door? Or to say I have no treats? Do you have personal experience of such outcomes?

But is it ever happening this way?
Do people really answer “trick” when asked?
Or rather anything from “no treat, sorry” to “fuck off you lousy brats”?
How does the ritual continue then? What do the kids answer?
And then, do they vandalize that person’s property, usually, or are there other types of tricks?
Do they do it immediately, or do they circle back later, secretly?

PS: Egging or TPing would require the kids to come prepared for that outcome. That’s another thing I’m wondering about. Do kids really do that these days, if so where.

Older generations did

So what’s the ritual? You come to the house, say trick or treat, I’m guessing the adult never answers “trick” but rather fuck off or no treat. What then? Do the kids immediately start wrecking?

That’s what they used to say about The Doors way back then, too.

Not sure if fork or reimplementation, but Minetest is in almost all Linux distro’s repositories. There’s plugins and plenty of community servers.

I’m just glad people are waking up to how fiercely controlling Google is even in its “free” and “open” source endeavors.

Ask Cory Doctorow, he has good answers well beyond that one term he coined.

It’s really a pet peeve of mine, that term. So typical for what Google/Alphabet is doing to control the narrative around what’s “secure” and what isn’t.

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Yes, it’s normal.

Seriously, books have been written about this. Fiction I mean, but probably also some sort of analysis.