• wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one
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    11 months ago

    You shouldnt be using vitamin pills for any dietary supplement. You uptake ~10-30% if youre lucky. The pill goes right through you. It needs to be in a food item with some mass, so it stays within the digestive tract.

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        11 months ago

        Eating it with food doesnt change the uptake. It doesnt magically undissolve because there is food sitting beside it.

        If youre only getting 10-30% of a supplemental nutrient, youre going to still be deficient. Youre just now spending money to be deficient, when before you got to keep the money.

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          11 months ago

          …you do realize that if your body takes up too little, you just eat more, right?

          I’ve taken blood tests. Nutrients in pill form work just fine.

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              11 months ago

              So, my doctor’s are wrong, my blood tests are fake, the healthcare guidelines to take supplements of you are deficient are wrong, and 10-30% uptake actually means 0% uptake?

              The scientific consensus is that supplements work just fine to treat nutrient deficiencies.

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                11 months ago

                Yeah yeah, youre living proof that published research is all lies and scientists are all fakers, we get it. And Im former president obama

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                  11 months ago

                  Do you honestly think that the scientific consensus is that nutrient supplements don’t work for treating deficiencies?

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                    11 months ago

                    You can google the papers yourself, I didnt make up that 10-30%. This is a known issue with pill supplements, and a massive criticism of the industry. Its a known scam, a waste of money that means people are “fixing” problems by buying expensive powder pills that do nothing for them.

                    Theres a minor push among medical professionals to stop advising patients take supplements and instead reccomend specific dietary additions, but there is some speculation that the reason its not taken on by more doctors is a mix of inertial laziness of “good enough” medicine practices and supplement manufacturers paying doctors for their brand to be the reccomendation of choice.

                    But sure bud, your anecdote about a blood test undermines all of that from the ground up.

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        11 months ago

        Not really, because the pill just dissolves and flushes out with your piss all the same.

        Its not in the food. If you really are dedicated to using a pill form, you need to crush it and directly add it in with meal prep.

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            11 months ago

            Yes, usually with the angle of “those bottle of vitamins youre buying are a scam”

            Its why vitamin gummies became a thing. The idea being that by making it a gummie, it needs to be digested, and thus will be uptaken.

            But Ive not seen any studies saying that the gummies actually pull that off. Maybe they do, Ive just not seen anything about it.

            Problem is the gummies are far less diverse and specific. Most are general purpose multivitamins. So if they do work, they usually miss the specific deficiencies people would want to target cause you just cant find em.

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      11 months ago

      Many medicines have low uptake efficiency. It just means you need to take 3-10 times the dose you need. Like if your body needs 10mg, you might need to take a 30 to 100mg pill.