Curious to see what everyone here’s opinions of this is

  • edric@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Everything else can either be replaced, or is on my own infrastructure.

    I’m curious, do you have accounts on other social media? Also, do you have any accounts on sites like shopping, government sites, etc.? And if you do, do you intentionally not use MFA (if it’s available) because you believe it should be those services making sure you are secure instead of you taking steps to make it harder to compromise your accounts?

    Have you looked at it from this angle?: MFA is one of the steps that service providers are doing to be responsible with securing your account.

    Security is a never ending game of cat and mouse, and the malicious actors are always a step ahead. There’s no such thing as being 100% secure, so both sides have to take steps to secure a transaction. If you believe security is 100% the burden of the provider, then we shouldn’t be using passwords and password managers in the first place, because the burden of having to maintain, secure, and memorize passwords shouldn’t be on the consumer. That’s great in theory, but not possible in practice, at least in the present.

    It’s kinda weird that you like to have your own agency on things (i.e. own infrastructure) yet the minute you need to use a third party service, you let go and put everything on the service, KNOWING they are not doing a good job with it.

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      And if you do, do you intentionally not use MFA (if it’s available) because you believe it should be those services making sure you are secure instead of you taking steps to make it harder to compromise your accounts?

      Yep. We can discuss me using a second factor once they start designing their services better.

      Payment on such sites is set to require approval via my bank (hardware token), I don’t care about the purchase history - so if somebody manages to breach the account and order something it’s entirely their problem, not mine. I’m aware they might close my account when confronted with that attitude, but I’m also fine with that.

      so both sides have to take steps to secure a transaction

      My passwords are stored locally encrypted, with the encryption key stored in a hardware token. The browser doesn’t have access to that. That’s already more than a lot of sites are doing for their security…

      yet the minute you need to use a third party service, you let go and put everything on the service, KNOWING they are not doing a good job with it.

      That’s exactly why I treat any 3rd party service as throwaway.