I don’t really see the point of this. It’s just adding complexity for the sake of it. As far as I can tell when you change gear it just changes some software parameters, there are no physical gears. Yet there’s a clutch and the ability to stall?
If you don’t enjoy the sport of driving, you probably don’t want a manual.
I’m interested in this. I feel like driving is a more connected experience with a manual and always prefer it. But that’s what it is: a preference.
It’s not very often people express that what they think isn’t absolutely the only opinion people should have and just wanted to say I appreciate that you’re willing to admit that.
no, no. pro-skub only.
Except it isn’t connected at all. It’s a shifting mini game programmed into the car’s computer.
Agreed. Not only does it lead to a more connected experience it forces the driver to may more attention to their vehicle and surroundings. I feel I am more prone to say dreaming of becoming distracted behind the wheel of an automatic vehicle.
My experience is opposite. I can focus more on driving without the distraction of gear shifting and keep both hands on wheel. Also in some circumstances having to change gear in some situations restricts your body position when you should have more freedom of movement to properly look around for pedestrians and cyclists - this is the case for me when turning into my housing estate.
The again i live in a rhd country so I change gears with my left hand. I find it a bit easier to do it with right.
Just push the clutch pedal in if it’s an emergency reaction; otherwise change into the gear you need to be in ahead of time (like downshifting into 2nd before a turn).
Sounds like you’re stretching a problem that is really just an error of usage, imo.
With less input required, people can just drift into their own thoughts and whatever emotional things they may have going on whereas the manual keeps your brain more focused in the activity of driving, even if you find it occasionally annoying.
It’s not a “problem” it’s just one of those little things that are safer with an auto.
But it depends a lot on the driver. I see lots of distracted drivers using their phone, I don’t matter what transmission they have if they don’t appreciate the power they are wielding by driving a car.
except it’s a little thing that is still not safer with an auto. Weigh that nothing burger against the much, much bigger problem of distraction.
It’s harder to wield a phone with a manual, as well.
A manual is a constant reminder of the thing you are doing.
Sport driving belongs to closed circuits, not the public roads.
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Karening belongs to closed fb groups, not the public lemmy.
I just want to be able to drive and cycle safely. Racing on public road (or whatever is meant by sport) is not legal, I don’t see why you would defend it and resort to name calling.
“the sport of driving” as a phrase has a different meaning than the “sport driving” meaning you were mudding it with. It was obvious to everyone else, except you and whichever other trigger-happy Karen is addicted to getting on a high horse on the internet over the issue you brought up. That’s why the name-calling is there, Mr. or Mrs. Reading Incomprehension.
I didn’t read the article, but in a modern ev I can only see merit in maybe 2 or three speeds plus reverse if it’s an actual transmission and not just a parameter change.
With the stick shift Honda civic converted to electric that I tried out when deciding if I wanted to convert my own, it had the original transmission and you really only used gear 2 and 4. You came to a full stop geared in, and changed directly to 2 while at 0 rpm. Definitely a strange experience to anyone used to stick shift.
Why? This makes no sense. Electric cars don’t need a transmission, they are direct drive.
It’s not a real transmission. It’s a fake clutch and stick. Both are tied to the computer to make it feel like you’re shifting.
My car has a CVT and it has shift paddles that are totally unnecessary.
If you’re in mountains, and especially if you’re towing a trailer, you need those.
I don’t know about trailers, but my EV makes light work of mountains.
I was just thinking that a cvt would be better for an ev…
I love manuals. I daily a car with a manual transmission. I’d drive any other EV before I drove a fake stick shift EV.
I can see a practical use for this if the simulation is as genuine as claimed. If a driver wants to learn how to drive stick it seems these cars can be used for teaching it without risking damage like that of gears grinding. They could learn how to use a clutch before starting to learn to drive a sports bike, for example.
I know in the country I live in if you do your driving test with automatic then your license is only valid for an automatic. This law should probably be changed imo, but I can see it causing people to be hesitant to go in on an ev if it means they will likely only be able to drive it. For people who already have a license, it obviously isn’t an issue if they are just getting a new car, but they are also looking at young first time buyers and new drivers.
The way I have usually seen in the past is that, if you get an automatic license you can only drive automatic. If you get a manual transmission license you can do both. Is this not how your country works? I don’t know how this is relevant otherwise.
It is. That’s what I was saying. Perhaps they are doing this for places that are hesitant to purchase a car that isn’t manual, because they (or their kid when getting a license) would have a limited license with an automatic.
When we first moved here we got an automatic with low miles for super cheap, because no one wanted an automatic.
America doesn’t work that way. But there’s so few manual cars now it doesn’t matter.
This seems cool and I want to try it out. It would be cool if you had the option to turn it on or off.
Why this is a feature like this important? There are people who feel that EV’s lack the soul and/or personality of ICE cars. There was a recent YouTube video I watched where one of the hosts described a tesla as being designed by “someone who thinks driving is a chore.” This feature would provide him and the people like him with EV’s that have personality.
I can totally see this feature enabling simulation of different power curves like a V8, V6, I4, with and without turbo’s and superchargers. I can also see the car tuner community designing their own torque curves which would be amazing. We can already adjust ICE car torque curves over the internet, why not EV’s?
We do think that EVs lack soul. However it isn’t because they lack a manual gearbox. It’s because they are treated like electronics devices. You are discouraged or outright blocked from repairing, tinkering, and modifying most EVs. They are all focused on peak efficiency or luxury, not towards a fun and engaging driving experience.
To be clear, I didn’t expect the first wave of EVs to be driver focused canyon carvers, but to get me into one they’ll need more than fake engine noises and simulated gearboxes.
Did they develop their own system, or did they license Koenigsegg’s?
This definitely has a place in sports cars. More control is a plus. If it’s any good, it will be a hit.
What are you talking about? It has an electric motor. It has a near flat toque curve. This literally gives you less control. There is a reason Formula E cars only have two gears and spend the majority of the race in second.
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Maybe an excuse to set two different prices, but charge more overall.
100%. Its like with hybrids, just add £10k onto a petrol engine price. Same cars
Adding complexity… Motherfuckers are adding electric tailgate and auto wipers and you are worried about the manual transmission.
