Death by opioids happens because you need an ever increasing dose to achieve the same effect. Eventually the dose required is higher than what’s needed to kill you.
People turn to black market opioids because they’re often cheaper than prescription, and while the dose just keeps going up, so does the price, unless you can find a cheaper supplier.
Cheaper suppliers are usually cheaper because they don’t have the same quality control, which again leads to accidental overdose or poisoning.
Because alcohol isn’t directly addictive and the same concentration will usually have the same effect per body mass, it doesn’t carry these issues despite overdoses still being deadly.
If you seperate “addiction” “addictive” into habit forming and dependancy, alcohol seems to be far safer in terms of habit forming (millions of people drink alcohol at without falling into dependancy), and far more dangerous in terms of dependancy (as you said, can kill you with withdrawal). (Edited to address typo/braindumb)
My (and presumably the person you quoted) internal definition of addictive skews towards the habit forming side of things, so in that respect its correctish?
You’re right, i mis-typed, I meant addictive instead of addiction in that first sentence.
Addiction is dependency, but addictive is used commonly to describe habit forming. That may not be medically accurate, but its how the word is commonly used. With that context, the statement “Alcohol is not directively addictive” is a reasonable statement.
But you are correct, once you are addicted to alcohol, it is very dangerous.
Nope. Still not a reasonable statement. Alcohol is habit forming and addictive. I dunno why you keep trying to play semantics with nonsense arguments honestly.
Because billions of people drink alcohol without forming a habit.
To argue that alcohol is habit forming to the same degree as nicotine or heroine is just as wrong.
am not a doctor myself but from what i know, the reason you increase the dose in first place is that your body build tolerance.
if a normal person were to take same dosage as a long time drug addict they would die in minutes
reasons for death of overdose:
someone went to rehab and lost their tolerance then went back to drugs with same dosage they used to take
someone missed a dosage and went through horrible withdrawal symptomps so when they finally got the pill they took too much
buying certain drug without knowing it is laced with a more powerfull one
It’s way easier to kill yourself with opioids- accidentally or on purpose. That’s why it’s being treated like an epidemic.
Death by opioids happens because you had to buy from a shady source. The law is to blame.
Many more have died from alcohol than opioids.
Death by opioids happens because you need an ever increasing dose to achieve the same effect. Eventually the dose required is higher than what’s needed to kill you.
People turn to black market opioids because they’re often cheaper than prescription, and while the dose just keeps going up, so does the price, unless you can find a cheaper supplier.
Cheaper suppliers are usually cheaper because they don’t have the same quality control, which again leads to accidental overdose or poisoning.
Because alcohol isn’t directly addictive and the same concentration will usually have the same effect per body mass, it doesn’t carry these issues despite overdoses still being deadly.
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If you seperate
“addiction”“addictive” into habit forming and dependancy, alcohol seems to be far safer in terms of habit forming (millions of people drink alcohol at without falling into dependancy), and far more dangerous in terms of dependancy (as you said, can kill you with withdrawal). (Edited to address typo/braindumb)My (and presumably the person you quoted) internal definition of addictive skews towards the habit forming side of things, so in that respect its correctish?
Habit forming and addiction are two different things entirely. Addiction is dependency.
You’re right, i mis-typed, I meant addictive instead of addiction in that first sentence.
Addiction is dependency, but addictive is used commonly to describe habit forming. That may not be medically accurate, but its how the word is commonly used. With that context, the statement “Alcohol is not directively addictive” is a reasonable statement.
But you are correct, once you are addicted to alcohol, it is very dangerous.
Nope. Still not a reasonable statement. Alcohol is habit forming and addictive. I dunno why you keep trying to play semantics with nonsense arguments honestly.
Because billions of people drink alcohol without forming a habit. To argue that alcohol is habit forming to the same degree as nicotine or heroine is just as wrong.
I guess we will just have to disagree.
am not a doctor myself but from what i know, the reason you increase the dose in first place is that your body build tolerance. if a normal person were to take same dosage as a long time drug addict they would die in minutes
reasons for death of overdose:
You missed one: Chasing a bigger high.
When people start dying of opioid overdoses, addicts tend to seek those suppliers out.