Maybe things can’t only get better for Keir Starmer, as he is shamed with the latest polling just as the Labour conference begins

  • dogs0n@sh.itjust.works
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    3 days ago

    As for the government ID thing, it’s hardly an authoritarian’s dream when almost every country on planet Earth does it already. You may not realise it, but we’re very much in the minority for not having this already.

    Just have to say, being in the minority for something does not mean it’s all of a sudden a good thing and that everyone else must do it.

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      3 days ago

      That’s true. My point is that people acting like it’s some awful mega authoritarian thing seems to be forgetting that we are one of 8 countries world wide without a unified government ID.

      Half of the others being overseas territories or island microstates.

      There’s a lot of fear mongering going on surrounding these IDs, as if they’re not an extremely normal thing.

      Essentially calling 200+ countries fascist, like the above user is doing, is a pretty extreme reaction.

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        The problem is not the ID cards that other countries have. That would be reasonable, even if one could argue NINO is sufficient.

        The problem is the online/app nature if them which, in conjunction with OSA, makes it dystopian control scenario.

        I’m not ignoring those upsides that you mentioned, I just didn’t mention them or wasn’t aware. I like most of them for what it matters.

        But I do still consider OSA and digital IDs an authoritarian measures and I do find this to be of high enough importance to potentially overshadow all of the above.

        What’s the point of living in a, arguably, more socialist state if your privacy doesn’t exist? I’m not a bloody tanky and I don’t like that angle, like many others.

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          22 hours ago

          Other countries have digital IDs. We are abnormal for not having them.

          You’re being whipped into a frenzy over something that is extremely normal.

          Making it out to be fascist is brain-dead. Only an absolute moron of the highest calibre would believe that the UK is one of only 8 non-fascist states in the world.

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            19 hours ago

            The majority of the world considered slavery and women being subservient normal, that didn’t make it right.

            You think it’s brain dead to reject a digital ID.

            I think it’s braindead to sacrifice privacy for the sake of safety, especially when it’s so transparent that the goal is control and suppression and not “protecting the children”.

            To each his own.