Maybe things can't only get better for Keir Starmer, as he is shamed with the latest polling just as the Labour conference begins

Maybe things can’t only get better for Keir Starmer, as he is shamed with the latest polling just as the Labour conference begins

  • Shadowedcross@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    251·
    6 days ago

    Labour is supposed to help the people they have been actively working against, it’s no surprise he’s wildly unpopular.

    • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
      5·
      6 days ago

      Here’s a drinking game if you want to stay sober:

      Take a drink every time you see someone who’s working class, at a Labour Party conference.

      They’ve long time lost their way.

      • G4Z@feddit.ukEnglish
        2·
        4 days ago

        Angela Rayner, though of course she sold us out for a fucking flat in Brighton.

        • Digit@lemmy.wtfEnglish
          11·
          3 days ago

          Oh that all working class were getting over £150,000 a year plus other benefits and expenses paid, and said to be worth nearly £5million.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      94·
      6 days ago

      Have they, though?

      • nationalising trains
      • nationalising steel
      • nationalising a part of our energy sector
      • bringing the NHS back under direct public control
      • ending various tax-dodging loopholes, such as the IHT for farmers
      • windfall tax on energy companies
      • charging VAT on private schooling
      • expanding free childcare
      • restarting SureStart (albeit under a different name)
      • expanding free school meals
      • expanding school breakfast clubs
      • guaranteeing jobs for young people (announced this morning)
      • big increases to the minimum wage, especially for the youngest
      • expansion of workers rights
      • expansion of renters rights
      • big increase in infrastructure investment, particularly for renewables

      OSA, fair enough. I’m sure plenty of young people especially aren’t happy about that. But overall, how are they actively working against people they’re supposed to be helping?

      • ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish
        171·
        6 days ago

        The trains were nationalised by the Tory government in 2020, and they also abolished franchising later that year. They also began to set up Great British Railways in 2021. All that’s happening now is the contracts are being withdrawn as they reach their break points.

        Steel has not been nationalised. The government has taken over the funding of redundancy payments and retraining for the shut down private sector Tata furnaces in Port Talbot, and has taken steps to force the owners of British Steel to keep the idle furnaces in Scunthorpe burning.

        There has also been no nationalisation in the energy sector. Great British Energy is set up as a way to subsidise projects created and run by the private sector and other public bodies. It will not generate, distribute or retail energy.

        • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
          23·
          3 days ago

          You need to look up the differences between the Tory rail model and Labour’s. It’s not the same.

          Steel has not been nationalised. The government has taken over the funding of redundancy payments and retraining for the shut down private sector Tata furnaces in Port Talbot, and has taken steps to force the owners of British Steel to keep the idle furnaces in Scunthorpe burning.

          Which is a good short term move. They can’t abruptly nationalise it by force immediately without causing a truss-like market panic. The ball is rolling.

          There has also been no nationalisation in the energy sector.

          Yes it is. GBE is public.

          Great British Energy is set up as a way to subsidise projects created and run by the private sector and other public bodies.

          That’s part of the energy sector…

          It will not generate, distribute or retail energy.

          I never said it will…