Maybe things can’t only get better for Keir Starmer, as he is shamed with the latest polling just as the Labour conference begins

  • Daniel Quinn@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    It’s the expectation.

    Boris and Truss were abject morons and Sunak was an insulated, rich Tory. They were expected to be terrible and so we weren’t surprised.

    Starmer won in a landslide victory for Labour and went about screwing the poor, arresting old ladies, and presiding over genocide. Conservatives hate him because he’s on the Red Team, and the Left hate him because he acts like a Tory.

    If he’d run as a Tory, he’d be scoring higher than everyone since Cameron, but he was supposed to fix the mess, not make it worse.

    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      How has he screwed the poor?

      • nationalising trains
      • nationalising steel
      • nationalising a part of our energy sector
      • bringing the NHS back under direct public control
      • ending various tax-dodging loopholes, such as the IHT for farmers
      • windfall tax on energy companies
      • charging VAT on private schooling
      • expanding free childcare
      • restarting SureStart (albeit under a different name)
      • expanding free school meals
      • expanding school breakfast clubs
      • guaranteeing jobs for young people (announced this morning)
      • big increases to the minimum wage, especially for the youngest
      • expansion of workers rights
      • expansion of renters rights
      • big increase in infrastructure investment, particularly for renewables

      Is any of that screwing the poor?

      arresting old ladies

      I didn’t realise that when you’re a certain gender or past a certain age the law should no longer apply?

      and presiding over genocide

      Huh? He banned weapons exports to Israel, publicly condemned Israel for war crimes, sanctioned a bunch of members of their parliament, ramped up aid for Palestine, committed to arresting Netanyahu if he ever steps foot on British soil, resisted joining the US and Israel with their attacks in Iran, and has recognised Palestine.

      He can’t do much more than that. Would you like him to invade Israel? I don’t think that’s realistic.

      If he’d run as a Tory, he’d be scoring higher than everyone since Cameron, but he was supposed to fix the mess, not make it worse.

      How is he making things worse?

      E: sure, just downvote when you see some inconvenient facts. You clearly hate all of the bullet points I’ve just outlined, in which case I’m not sure why you ever supported Labour in the first place. They’ve been a centre-left party for half a century now.

      • Yeather@lemmy.ca
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        The trains were nationalised by the Tory government in 2020, and they also abolished franchising later that year. They also began to set up Great British Railways in 2021. All that’s happening now is the contracts are being withdrawn as they reach their break points.Steel has not been nationalised. The government has taken over the funding of redundancy payments and retraining for the shut down private sector Tata furnaces in Port Talbot, and has taken steps to force the owners of British Steel to keep the idle furnaces in Scunthorpe burning.There has also been no nationalisation in the energy sector. Great British Energy is set up as a way to subsidise projects created and run by the private sector and other public bodies. It will not generate, distribute or retail energy.

      • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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        Huh? He banned weapons exports to Israel, publicly condemned Israel for war crimes, sanctioned a bunch of members of their parliament, ramped up aid for Palestine, committed to arresting Netanyahu if he ever steps foot on British soil, resisted joining the US and Israel with their attacks in Iran, and has recognised Palestine.

        And still has contracts for the Israeli military to train British troops, and still criminalises the expression of support for Palestinian rights. At best, we’re seeing some mixed messaging here.

        They’ve been a centre-left party for half a century now.

        Sure, because there’s no difference between Labour under Michael Foot or Corbyn and Labour under Blair or Starmer. /s

        • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world
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          FFS, why are you lying? Supporting Palestine is not illegal. The government supports Palestine. Stop the lies.

          The only thing that’s illegal is supporting a proscribed violent group.

          Sure, because there’s no difference between Labour under Michael Foot or Corbyn and Labour under Blair or Starmer. /s

          Obviously they’re different under every leader. They’re still centre left and I just proved it to you. You being too stupid to accept it doesn’t change reality. Go look at my list again.

          At least he’s not a supporter of Putin like Corbyn, and could actually win an election unlike Corbyn.