i’d say incel is when you blame women as a group… basically misogyny….

i guess, i’ve seen incels blame society as a whole… and have a few valid observations mixed in with a bunch of insane beliefs. i suppose any good cult has that.

but, if you say dating culture sucks and you’re not playing the game, that’s not incel but is disenfranchised… or disgruntled….

if you say society has programmed you to need a barbie doll girlfriend/servant and you deserve it and hate everyone, refuse to work on yourself at all, and bitterly polish your gun, that’s incel….

it’s possible to not fit in mainstream society without being completely antisocial…
toxic masculinity/machismo is a thing, and it’s reinforced by everyone who’s been indoctrinated… that doesn’t mean every individual is a horrible piece of shit, but it also doesn’t mean you should try to emulate some macho ideal to compete.

the guy who gets all the interest at the bar is probably not going to be very attractive at the open mic or event feeding homeless people or whatever… everyone is an “alpha” in different situations, human groups overlap, and incel is a direct result of autistic people thinking PUA culture is the base level of society and human interaction….