I’ll go. I’m still proud of every American who has held in there through these 8 years and not given up on turning things around. We know what it is to live free and despite all the obstacles ahead there is still places that you can experience it.

      • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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        9 hours ago

        Good one.
        But to be serious, Americans don’t see them as much as the rest of the world apparently.
        Red flags are subjective things. For instance, some can be seen as an awkward gesture or autism.
        The same people furiously screaming that peace talks for ukraine are appeasement don’t see the blatant hypocrisy of their jawdroppingly milquetoast attitude to keep their positions or not harm their selfish interests.

        • Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.worldOP
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          4 hours ago

          The problem with the gesture, i see, especially the one from bannon is we get these false equivalences on the other side who then further down play everything. Like this is the top of r/conservative this morning

          We know these aren’t equal but from an outsider perspective, they don’t fucking know. If they watch Bannon what they will see wasn’t as pronounced as the others and helps the subterfuge. All except everyone else knows, Bannons salute was probably the most credible one because it’s bannon and I don’t even think its the first time from him. It definitely aligns with all the views he espouses.

          Anyway, that was just my take on that controversy. That really, at this point, isn’t helping move the discussion foward.

          • Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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            8 hours ago

            Yes we know these 4 horrible imperialist warmongers you show here didn’t do a nazi salute.
            The point is they are already on their way to being collaborators.
            Their non-reactions and excuses are a clear sign.
            As I said, appeasement out of self-interest and cowardice.
            But I imagine in time they will go much further as happened with the Germs in the 40’s.