When it’s all done and dusted, I hope it’s the beginning of the end for corporate capitalism as we know it. Allowing them to become that big and powerful through corruption that they literally think that they can control the world, is insane.

This is happening because of greed.

Whether it’s now or later, life has to get a lot worse before it gets better. People will have to feel a lot more pain than they’re feeling now before they do more than bitch and moan online.

So, in the best case scenario, the US as we know it is done and, after a hard fall and hitting rock bottom, will emerge as a country that is less of a capitalist hellhole. Ideally, in the process, other countries will find more independence from the USA, be it trade wise or security wise.

The more realistic scenario is that everything will stay the same/similar and just get slightly worse all the time but every other country will still suck up to the USA and everything gets a little worse. Oh yeah and climate change will fuck everyone up the ass.

The worst case scenario, I would argue, is that this ends in the destruction of the world via nuclear war within less than an hour. This is what I am scared of the most.

We are about to become a cautionary tale other countries use to warn eachother not to go too hard into capitalism

I joined Lemmy today, and while reading the TOS I had a sigh of relief when I got to the end and the US was not on the list of countries it follows the laws of. Instead it’s the three countries at the top of my wishlist of places I’d like to flee to to avoid being sent to a camp, even! Well, Finland has the same problem Canada has of having one of the worst neighbors in the world right now, but Germany and the Netherlands are great options. Rule 1 would have only weeks, maybe months, to live before Elon Musk ordered discrimination against minorities to be mandatory instead of prohibited if Lemmy was following the laws of the dying country I live in. Well, “laws”. We don’t really have laws anymore, it’s all royal decrees now. Everybody is currently holding their breath on whether they’ve consolidated dictatorial power well enough to enforce them.

In a sense it is done. That sense is being a beacon of progress. All presidents before Trump understood the relationship America had with the world as being a world power. While there always was a conservative voice in America, conservative presidents were always able to mask self interest under the flag of progress, bringing democracy, peace and free markets. Now ultraconservative fascist are no longer masking, Trump and Musk are literally not smart enough to understand. The USA played a very important role in the world order and the current administration is basically giving that up.

Trump and Musk, because they really aren’t smart (i can’t stress this enough, they lack the mental capacity), are not considering the value of that role, the services the US provides. They only think about the value of things and of money. More rockets, tarifs on goods, expenditure… And see these as things along which progress is measured.

While that does, to a small extent, captures progress. It forgets the foundations of progress, peace, education, financial security, social cohesion, to name a few. Sorry, i say forget… But really what i should be saying is dismantling. They are also clueless about the value of services and the service economy. Which is, or has become, another measure of progress.

Anyway the point is, the US can’t maintain their position in the world order. They can’t maintain a government that understands their responsibility in that order. They abandoned their classic role without providing the world with a new/better one.

The US has been degraded to a trade partner.

Yes. How much and for how long is the real questions, luckily I live in CA and if the country dissolves we’ll just do everything ourselves. In fact, We’ll be better off as we provide 60% of the US tax revenue, and we get noting close to that in return.

Just wanted to say: react now. Their actions will slowly get normalized and it will be a much harder fight once culture starts working against you

We live in a criminally stupid country but Musk is doing his best to show everyone that being a billionaire should be a crime.

Edit: the tweet is fake, btw

We been screwed for decades; all the minor plot threads, foreshadowing, and chekhov’s implements are all just coalescing at the same time for one last grand finale.

Screwed is always relative.

I’m hearing chat that immigrants from places like Turkey or India are going “oh yeah this is what it’s like back home”.

So it’s possible it just goes full neoliberal (i.e. no consequences or regulations for the rich) and the division of wealth grows even further.

Provided he doesn’t cause a war or some kind of other mass-death problem (chemical spills, reactor meltdown etc) it might just have a cost primarily in human suffering, as opposed to human life.

It’s never over.

Even the worst dictatorship can collapse. They get internally couped until the dictator learns to purge anyone capable of challenging them, then human mortality fixes that dictator and the government collapses

It’s not good though. The best time to fix it was ages ago before Reagan. The second best time is right now before the police state is firmly in place

Probably.

We’re cooked fam. Can’t wait for the reboot.

I hate to say it, but yes. Everything we’ve predicted from trump has come true thus far.

The insurrection was predicted

The migrant camps were predicted

The ice raids were predicted

Roe v Wade was predicted

Selling Giving Ukraine to Russia was predicted

Banning DEI was predicted

The list goes on but more importantly these were all seen as hypothetical worst case scenarios. We should stop treating the next steps like they are hypothetical. America has fallen, and civil war is next.

Former presidents at least recognized they had the responsibility to take care of both the people who voted for them and the people who didn’t. Trump only sees the people who voted for him and the people he needs to make an example of.

I hate to say it, but the DNC is weak and won’t help us anymore. I supported Kamala like hell and believed that they could figure it out but they just don’t and won’t.

I’m not a violent person. I hate the thought that I’d ever be forced into a situation where I need to either learn how to fight or die (because right now I’m SOL). I never wanted to find myself rooting for assassins and feeling like the world would be better off of certain people were dead. I’d rather believe the world would be better off if certain people were alive.

But all I see in the future is a federal coup backed by sycophants in the Senate and supreme Court that then collides with the governors of blue states who won’t bend the knee.

TL;Dr if we don’t go full dictator, we are going to civil war, and we deserve it.