This is not a question of about parroted nonsense and cultural norms. I mean what end product do they produce that justifies their existence in the first place.

I’m physically disabled and have been living in a prison like situation for nearly 11 years. How does my situation balance into the ethics of prisons? I’m on a path to homelessness and a premature death due to institutionalized neglect and abuse from US institutions. Criminals are housed and fed in exchange for similar isolation, abuse, danger, insurmountable debt, and a largely unemployable and destitute future. These seem to conflict in ethics.

  • Dasus@lemmy.world
    1·
    8 hours ago

    Wow, so your answer is to… not even attempt anything? Just declare “nope, that’s impossible (despite evidence to the contrary) so why bother trying”?

    Let me know how that goes…

    • Akasazh@feddit.nl
      11·
      7 hours ago

      It’s clear that, in this case, the education system could use some updating, too.

    • kitnaht@lemmy.world
      12·
      8 hours ago

      Are you attempting anything? Because bitching about it on the internet isn’t far from doing nothing. What have you done in your life to change the US prison system? I’d love to hear it.

      • Dasus@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 hours ago

        Because bitching about it on the internet isn’t far from doing nothing

        So youre saying “bitching online” does have an effect, since it’s not nothing, by your own admission?

        • kitnaht@lemmy.world
          11·
          6 hours ago

          You know how 0.9999999999999999999999999~ = 1?

          It’s like that. A rounding error at best. So yes, in reality, nothing.

          If all you’re doing is bitching about it on the internet, then you are doing nothing and then acting virtuous about doing nothing.

          YAY you have warm fuzzy thoughts and feelings! Congratulations you’re a “good person”!

            • kitnaht@lemmy.world
              11·
              6 hours ago

              in reality, nothing

              Did you miss that part?

              then you are doing nothing

              Or that part?

                • kitnaht@lemmy.world
                  11·
                  5 hours ago

                  You should read your own link. Nowhere in there does it list “bitching about something in a dark corner of the internet on a private forum”

                  All of the examples listed – kinda require you getting out of your chair and you know doing something.

                  But you haven’t, and won’t. And instead of admitting that, you’re going to argue what the definition of “doing something” means. You’re not stupid. You know you haven’t ever done anything, you know that nothing in your life has contributed at all to the subject matter at hand.

                  But also I know you haven’t done anything either, and that calls into question your virtues, and that ruffles your feathers.

                  It’s not enough to just have “good thoughts”. I at least realize that the herculean effort required to achieve such change is beyond the average persons capabilities or even desires. That doesn’t make me a bad person, just someone who understands the reality of the situation at hand.