Teachers will be forced to tell parents that their child is questioning their gender even if the young person objects under new guidance for schools in England, the equalities minister has indicated.

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      No, I think things like this that can cause a potential dangerous situation shouldn’t be told. Coming out about anything, sexually, gender identity etc is a personal choice. Taking that from someone is a form of control.

      If a teacher tries any of this shit when my kiddo is in school, I’m gonna lose it with them. It’s up to my child if and when they feel comfortable telling me those things, if they ever realise they aren’t straight or aren’t the gender they were born as. It’s their right to choose to tell me this. Not someone else. Just because they’re children, doesn’t mean we have rights to know everything. Their privacy is important too. Children are people, not possessions. They deserve respect. We don’t demand someone’s boss tells their family if they find out this stuff. We don’t demand higher education teachers of over 18s to do this either. Just because their minors does not mean were entitled to know their private thoughts and feelings. Unless a child has admitted to thoughts of suicide/ harming themselves or others, I don’t believe we should be told.

      If they think a child has behavioural issues that need looking into, fine. That’s good information. But outing someone, no matter their age is wrong and potentially dangerous. Luckily there’s parents out there who will be accepting if they get information like this. But unfortunately there’s parents who won’t be, and depending on what those parents are like, it could result in some seriously bad situations arising.

      I know my own parent was less then impressed when she found out Im pansexual. And they tried the whole ‘but kids’ and ‘its just a phase thing.’ which isn’t as bad as some people/ children would get. But being invalidated doesn’t feel good, especially on something that isn’t an opinion, but a fact. Being told you’re wrong for your sexuality or gender identity can do a lot of damage to people.

      This is stupid. It shouldn’t be a thing. I’m sick of the ‘but the children’ bullshit the government keep pushing as a cover for wanting more control. No end to end encryption, because we want to protect the children. Our children, because we want to protect the children. Access to your private messages, the children.
      It’s all bullshit they use to get people on board because children are an easy pawn to use. The government’s of the world need to stop using children in pawns of their stupid games and just be honest. But how likely are people to listen if they say ‘we want more control’ over ‘we are trying to protect the children!’

      I’ll say it again. Fuck the government.

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          There’s a gap between questioning and transitioning. Kids need people they feel safe talking to. Kids need to be able to ask questions about the world without feeling like they’ll be punished. You mentioned in other comments about programs to reduce abuse, but what about something as simple as:

          Mr Teacher, I have questions about what it means to be a boy or girl. I don’t want to ask my parents because they get mad when the topic comes up on the news.

          Well, little Timmy, you shouldn’t have told me that because I now need to legally tell your parents. Hope you’re ready to feel unloved just for asking a question, nerd.

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              If Jimmy is now going by Cindy, that’s a social cue of transitioning.

              You say I’m using hyperbole in the same comment as this. You do know it’s possible to question gender without changing your name, right?

              I did use hyperbole to make my point, but only in how bluntly it would be said. I don’t think it’s an exaggeration to say there are shitty, but not abusive enough to lose their kids, parents out there, and I do think there are kids out there who would rather ask questions of other adults in their lives. I am making this argument about the edge cases, because I think the argument “this will only fuck over a small percentage of people” is a shit take. So is “teachers are government employees who should act as interchangable robots that kids can’t trust or confide in.”

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      Weren’t you just talking about how you believe in small government and oppose authoritarianism in another post and yet here you are demanding that the government force educators to invade children’s privacy by spying on them and relaying their findings to parents?

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            Tell you what, I’ve been back and forth with this person somewhere else in this thread, and it really astounds me how someone could be both small government and demand the right to use the strong arm of the government to allow parents to surviel their child via their own teachers.

            Then they question you because you can’t prove they said that directly, as though inferring such without saying it absolves them of any guilt. Might work in court, but that doesn’t work here.

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              I just stopped replying to them entirely as their latest comments are completely unhinged antigovernment rants and conspiracy theories plus they began completely contradicting themselves from one reply to the next, drastically changing their supposed ‘ideals’ to whatever suited their argument in that particuler moment.

              This person needs intensive cult deprogramming if they’re genuine or a better job than working in a troll farm if they’re not.