Party aides are confident in US vice-president’s ability to bounce back, including a bid for California governor

Dear god, no. This is an abjectly terrible idea. Dems aren’t going to win until they stop being the other party of billionaires who are centre-right at best yet claiming to be for the working man. Come on, learn something from this election. We want a Sanders or AOC, not this milquetoast rejection of the full scope of the Overton window.

This is going to be a crazy four years, and to suggest we come out on the other side wanting a return to the same bullshit that held wages and lifestyles back for, by then, 50 years, is a failure to read the room. No one wants what the Democratic party currently offers, and I don’t see her suddenly becoming progressive. We don’t need another president on the cusp of getting Social Security when elected.

We want that for ourselves after paying into the system for so long, but that’s not going to happen. Find a new standard-bearer or die. Learn. Adapt. Run on real change, not the incremental shit that was resoundingly rejected and so generously provided us with the shitshow we’re about to endure. Voters stay home when you do that, and here we are.

I mean, how many CEOs need to be killed before anyone gets the message that what they’re offering has the current panache of liver and onions? Doesn’t matter how well it’s prepared; the world has moved on, and whoever gets the nomination in '28 needs to as well. Harris is not that candidate.

  • knokelmaat@beehaw.orgM
    24·
    7 days ago

    I am not from the US but always felt the world would be so different if Bernie was up against Trump instead of Hilary.

    Is there a younger member of the Democratic party with a similar vibe to Bernie?

      • socsa@piefed.socialEnglish
        12·
        7 days ago

        She will run into the same problems as Clinton. The right has spent a decade attacking her at every opportunity so that she is a polarizing figure, whether she deserves it or not.

        • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
          3·
          7 days ago

          You might be right but it’s worth a shot. I’m not sure who we’ve got that’s a better option at this point.

          • Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            5·
            7 days ago

            Tim Walz? I mean, he’s another old white man but he is fairly progressive and he won’t quite be at retirement age yet by next election. Plus people loved him and what he had to say before the Harris campaign started muzzling him.

            • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
              4·
              7 days ago

              Maybe. I don’t know a ton about the guy. He had a few zingers but not sure what his background is and whether he’s authentic or not. I didn’t investigate him much because VP barely matters but if he runs then I will.

              • Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                5·
                7 days ago

                As someone from mn (where walz has been governor for a while now) I can assure you that he’s awesome. The only thing that concerns me about him is that hes been awfully quiet about Israel’s genocide so I don’t really know where he stands on that. Otherwise though he’s amazing.

                He owns no stocks and no real assets to speak of. He lives exclusively in the govenors house and is relying on his state pension for retirement. He has passed legislation enshrining abortion rights in mn, blocking corporations from buying single family homes, providing free school lunches to all students, and funding college access for everyone state wide. In his free time he likes hunting, fishing, and working on his old 1979 International Harvester Scout Truck. When he fucked up durring his response to the George Floyd protests he immediately admited that he fucked up and vowed to do better next time. Durring covid he repeatedly chewed people out on both sides of the aisle for politicizing the pandemic while enacting common sense laws about it. Honestly I can’t think of a single thing he has done that I disagree with other than his response to the George Floyd protest which even he admits was wrong.

                I am rabbid for this man. He would be a damn nice president. My only regret would be that if he became president then he wouldn’t be my state govenor any more.

                • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
                  3·
                  6 days ago

                  Thanks for sharing, that does sound good. I really wish people would take a stand on Palestine though. That might be enough for me to vote for someone else alone if there is another option. We’ll see. It’s gonna be a long 4 years before we really dive into this stuff. I don’t want to fear-monger but there is a real chance the next election will be subject to major interference.

                  I think it’s more important to focus on organizing resistance to the new administration right now.

      • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
        4·
        7 days ago

        Nah. I was optimistic for her at first too, but she’s been a disappointment really. I would say at a minimum she has gotten less radical with time, and votes like the rest of the neoliberals in the party.

          • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
            3·
            7 days ago

            Recently? Her vote in favor of a bullshit definition of antisemitism, and I saw an article yesterday about her pledging to change her ‘rebel ways’ to fit in better with the dem party line (meaning no longer support primary challenges to incumbents)-- and then Pelosi passed her over in favor of another decrepit dinosaur for a spot on the oversight committee.

            • Pete Hahnloser@beehaw.orgOP
              1·
              3 days ago

              The first sounds plausible, but I’ll have to wait for morning to look it up. “I saw an article” in our media landscape holds as much water as a colander, with ‘scare quotes’ adding holes. Pelosi for Bingo!