President-elect Donald Trump on Friday confirmed that Republicans will work together to ditch Daylight Saving Time, the practice of changing the clocks by an hour twice a year.
President-elect Donald Trump on Friday confirmed that Republicans will work together to ditch Daylight Saving Time, the practice of changing the clocks by an hour twice a year.
Then you will have different work hours everywhere. Chaos.
Or you would need to force a lot of people to work at strange hours.
How is that chaos?
Nobody would have a convenient and immediate feel about the daylight times (and work hours) in different countries without converting it.
Now if someone talks about 23:00 in their time you have a very good idea when in the day that is. If it was 2300 or whatever you’d have to know where they are and when the daytime starts there to make sense of it.
Also would be really annoying for some to have their daytime at what used to be the middle of the night per the clock.
Sunrised in NY and CA at 7 am today in their respective time
They are 3 hours apart in time zones.
So if you wanted everyone to use same clock and for the sun to rise at 7am in NY. That would mean the sun would rise at 4am in CA.
The sun would set at 1:30pm in CA
Someone currently working a 9-5pm. It would become a 6-2pm job.
How is that not going to cause chaos?
Different employers in areas have their own arbitrary start/stop times already, time numbers are already an arbitrary concept, if someone in CA right now is working hours based on NY, when they work relative to the sun won’t change, just the numbers. The difference would be in people cold contacting others vs scheduled times. Right now if something is scheduled you have to convert it to your time, the formula for which will vary based on what time zone it is scheduled in. With this change, when reaching out to someone far away, you’d have to figure out if you’re contacting them at an appropriate time for their day/night, but that’s also inexact because people have different personal cycles anyway.
Working hours being 9am-5pm vs 1900-0300 are just numbers.
On a day in California, where the sun rises at 7 am PST, it would be equivalent to making it 3 pm UTC.
You think people in California are going to be happy waking up at 3 pm, going to work at 5pm-1am, then going to sleep at 7am?
People are angry that they get an extra hour of sleep one night and lose one another. 2 days out of the year.
You really think you’re going to sell these people on waking up at 3 pm and going to bed at 7am?
Working hours being 9am-5pm PST vs 9am-5pm PDT are just numbers
DST just tries to shift everyone to a beneficial sun zone for a part of the year.
Depending where you live and mainly how close you are to a time zone line depends if keeping it, getting rid of it, or keeping the current system is beneficial.
Maine could be in it’s own time zone as far east as it really is. The idea that Michigan is in the same time zone is absurd. Michigan should be in CST. That would drop them back an hour. If you talked to someone in Michigan they probably hate DST. Their DST should be their current standard time and then they should fall back to CST if they wanted to do the DST switch thing. They would get a lot more sunlight in the morning.
Yes, other than a 1-time adjustment, it’s no less arbitrary than the current times they use.
They’re right to, it literally causes a rise in deaths, with this that goes entirely away, so yay?
I’m not sure you’d still use am/pm, but yeah. What intrinsic negative is there? Who cares if they have to be at work at the same point relative to the local day/night cycle but it’s named something else.
They also come with the baggage of dst and timezones, part of which you list below.
Yeah, this is all dumb, so why not make all of these oddities go away.
Thats how many jobs already are. Jobs ending at 2pm in California because the majority of their market is already gone for the day. There is nothing chaotic about it at all. They are just numbers. We are open from 9-17. Hours posted, that’s when they are open. In New York when someone asks what time they are open the answer is 9-17, in Japan, it’s 9-17. No matter where you are in the world, look at your watch/clock/phone I should be able to say huh, it’s 11, they are open… I’ll give them a call. 0 chaos. No asking what time zone, no asking if it’s 11am or pm, just 9-17. Always the same for anyone who wants to do business with that business.
Sidenote, think about how much cooler new years would be. Everyone on the planet moving to a new year at the same time. Not, well Terry is in Texas so it won’t be for another hour there.
It’s not just numbers: there’s an even more significant factor: insolation. It would be much more uneven for different places and sunlight affects our psychic and physiology.
The amount of sun is not dictated by what time we arbitrarily call it. People’s scheduled times for work would vary based on location, so someone in CA who currently works 9-5 would would work like 17-3. Which would be the same as the sun coverage locally is concerned.
If companies actually are about such things then since the sun goes down at at 4:36 where I live, also the majority of people work inside. So a a healthier schedule would be getting off work at 12, and going to bed at 5:30pm (17:30).
That extends the most amount of hours you spend awake and not sitting inside working, to daylight. So your workday should start around 3 it will be light outside when you take lunch at 7, and you get off at 12. So you have full access to the best psychic and physiology right? Sun sets at 4:30, and your in bed by 5:30.
Somehow I don’t think that’s what people want though.
I personally don’t care for it much, but I am usually more awake during the night anyways.
My start times this week were; 6:30, 3:30, 6, 6, 5:30. Most would think that’s to early, especially when you have to drive 50 miles to work. So I leave at 2:30am on Tuesdays, lol.
Every job is different
You realize when people show up at 8 am in different time zones this is already the same thing.
But we know 8 am is morning everywhere and around the time of workday. Orienting stuff around the daylight hours is pretty convenient since we are diurnal lol
You would just adjust after a while. It would be different but you’d be starting your shift at 1700 instead of 0900 (PST, or is it PDT?) for a 9-5. Maybe closer to 1600 on the east side of PST or closer to 1800 to the west. But for a town or region things would become locally consistent.
And scheduling work meetings across time zones you already have to coordinate. So not really different from now.
I think the real chaos is how it would affect dates. “The store is closed on the 25th” now would necessitate specifying the exact hours and dates because it would likely bleed from the 24th or into the 26th. Anyone filling out a form would have to be careful to check the time to make sure they get the date right. Even just the simple statement “Let’s get together Tuesday” becomes ambiguous.
It would be pretty dumb to add all that confusion to the vastly more common use case, for what?