Can’t afford to live, get shouted at by callers irrelevant to my role each day just cos I am at a phone, can’t work from home despite the whole organisation doing so, higher paid people throw their workload at me cos they don’t want to do it.
Feels no different from when i was in the private sector really.
Lol damn, God forbid someone want more out of life than scraping by getting basic needs barely met. I’ve been looking around while in school, and plenty of jobs are still paying $15-19/hr. That is barely enough to get by, depending where you live and rent may not even be enough, let alone take a vacation once a year or even think of raising a family.
You’re arguing semantics while the intention is clear. Quit being pedantic.
In our parents’ generation’s time, a public service job could fund a house, two kids, and annual vacations. We want that, or even more since we’re significantly more productive since those days. A job used to give us needs and a good amount of wants. Conflating the two in this context, while not perfectly precise, is irrelevant.
If I’m talking about liking red cars then point to a car, and you say, “that’s not red, that’s mauve,” you’re being an ass.
If we’re shopping for paint together, and i say “i like this red,” and you reply, “i think that’s mauve,” you’re trying to be specific in our communication about a common task.
Please do explain the difference, then, between why breaks are necessary but vacations shouldn’t be? You do realize study after study shows that 24-30 hour work weeks provide the most productivity? That family leave, healthcare, paid time off etc is associated with the happiest citizens? Is increased well-being not necessary in your worldview?
between why breaks are necessary but vacations shouldn’t be?
One is literally necessary for survival while the other isn’t. This is the difference between a ‘need’ and a ‘want.’
Is increased well-being not necessary in your worldview?
Considering how many people are able to live a significantly lower quality of life than what you’re advocating for, no. It’s not a ‘need.’ It’s a ‘want.’ There’s no limit to ‘increased well being.’ There is a limit to what the human body can take before it can no longer go on living.
Might want to brush up on your vocabulary. This is a pretty simple concept that even 2nd graders have no problem understanding.
Yeah, second graders get longer vacations than I do, interesting ain’t it. Maybe you need one cuz your brain seems to be working overtime to justify people suffering.
I can afford to eat. But I can’t afford housing and any enjoyment comes with guilt from knowing itll have a knock on effect to my finances. I’m living with a parent (who similarly struggles to pay bills)
It’s more a case of finding it hard to hit the bills and not being able to see a future where I’m comfortable.
I’d say it’s mostly due to the cost of living rather than the pay. 10 years ago I’d be doing quite well, but the pay grades haven’t changed to meet inflation or accommodate for the high cost of living.
I have a public service job.
Can’t afford to live, get shouted at by callers irrelevant to my role each day just cos I am at a phone, can’t work from home despite the whole organisation doing so, higher paid people throw their workload at me cos they don’t want to do it.
Feels no different from when i was in the private sector really.
No offense due but I hope you’re interviewing
Looking, not much on the market right now, but it’s a process I suppose!
At what quality of life?
I find it hard to believe you have a public service job that can’t pay for your peanut butter sandwiches and vegetables to stay alive.
Lol damn, God forbid someone want more out of life than scraping by getting basic needs barely met. I’ve been looking around while in school, and plenty of jobs are still paying $15-19/hr. That is barely enough to get by, depending where you live and rent may not even be enough, let alone take a vacation once a year or even think of raising a family.
What do you mean? He used the word ‘need’ and now you’re changing it to ‘wants.’
Why are you conflating needs with wants?
It’s both. Humans need breaks, vacations, etc. I may want to take a vacation to South America but would settle for somewhere North, though.
Woah woah woah. Breaks and vacations are very different things.
It’s funny watching you people conflate needs and wants just like breaks and vacations, lol.
You really need to brush up on your vocabulary!
You’re arguing semantics while the intention is clear. Quit being pedantic.
In our parents’ generation’s time, a public service job could fund a house, two kids, and annual vacations. We want that, or even more since we’re significantly more productive since those days. A job used to give us needs and a good amount of wants. Conflating the two in this context, while not perfectly precise, is irrelevant.
Needs and wants are different things and should be described as such.
If I’m talking about liking red cars then point to a car, and you say, “that’s not red, that’s mauve,” you’re being an ass.
If we’re shopping for paint together, and i say “i like this red,” and you reply, “i think that’s mauve,” you’re trying to be specific in our communication about a common task.
Right now, we’re talking about cars. Chill out
Please do explain the difference, then, between why breaks are necessary but vacations shouldn’t be? You do realize study after study shows that 24-30 hour work weeks provide the most productivity? That family leave, healthcare, paid time off etc is associated with the happiest citizens? Is increased well-being not necessary in your worldview?
One is literally necessary for survival while the other isn’t. This is the difference between a ‘need’ and a ‘want.’
Considering how many people are able to live a significantly lower quality of life than what you’re advocating for, no. It’s not a ‘need.’ It’s a ‘want.’ There’s no limit to ‘increased well being.’ There is a limit to what the human body can take before it can no longer go on living.
Might want to brush up on your vocabulary. This is a pretty simple concept that even 2nd graders have no problem understanding.
Yeah, second graders get longer vacations than I do, interesting ain’t it. Maybe you need one cuz your brain seems to be working overtime to justify people suffering.
The wording was a tad dramatic.
I can afford to eat. But I can’t afford housing and any enjoyment comes with guilt from knowing itll have a knock on effect to my finances. I’m living with a parent (who similarly struggles to pay bills)
It’s more a case of finding it hard to hit the bills and not being able to see a future where I’m comfortable.
I’d say it’s mostly due to the cost of living rather than the pay. 10 years ago I’d be doing quite well, but the pay grades haven’t changed to meet inflation or accommodate for the high cost of living.