• cymbal_king@lemmy.world
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      The only issue I’ve ever had with my Ioniq 5 in 2 years was running over a screw and had to get the tire sealed. There is no oil to change, so the only regular maintenance is free tire rotations at the dealer.

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      They’re actually more reliable and money saved on gas and maintenance is much more than the price of changing the battery every 10 years.

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        I mean, depends on the car you have. Outside of purchasing the vehicle, I haven’t spent 15k in the last decade of car ownership and that’s in AUD, so like 10k us. Pretty sure a new battery could cost more than that. Definitely the case for some though, especially if you have cheap electricity.

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      Well, the range part of the equation isn’t. A fuel tank doesn’t get smaller over time, and you can replace one fairly easily. Batteries die over time, and can’t be replaced easily.

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        Doesn’t fuel efficiency go down, though? I’d say that’s roughly equivalent to the battery losing effectiveness. And generally requires fixing or outright replacing key components to get back to par.

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            True, the scale isn’t quite the same, but the technology is also much newer. You’d agree that fuel efficiency, much like battery efficiency, does go down, though?

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        They aren’t that hard, just no one wants to actually do it. Harder than a fuel tank and requires actual training, for sure, but it isn’t that hard for a trained person. I’ve seen reports of batteries actually doing fairly well, although I suspect that’s brand dependant, the Nissan leaf got a pretty bad rep for being hot trash. Literally, I think the issue was a passive cooled battery just degrading it at absurd rates.

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          You drain it, unbolt 2 straps, pull the pump, and then put the pump in the new tank, and replace the tank. You might even get lucky and not have to undo any fuel hoses.

          With skateboard designs, like all Teslas, you have to remove the entire interior.

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            I haven’t seen Tesla’s getting the battery swapped.much, but I’ve seen others that while probably taking a few hours isn’t removing the entire interior. Honestly, that’s just yet another reason to not buy a Tesla, as if there weren’t enough reasons to avoid them as it is

            Having had a petrol tank replaced, you make it seem like it’s a 15 minute job, definitely isn’t, at least it wasn’t in my ford falcon (au, 2000 model) and that’s a basic bitch car.

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        That doesn’t say they are unreliable, just that the tech that isn’t the basic car function is utter garbage a lot of the time. Can’t really disagree with that, fuck off with screens bigger than my laptop and give me my damn buttons back.