• Riskable@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    42
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    25 days ago

    We are merely at the beginning of this revolution! Soon AI artists will be generating whole gifs of Sonic giving birth to Borat and eventually, feature-length movies!

    What a wonderful future awaits us!

  • renzev@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    25 days ago

    I don’t mind people making and sharing AI pictures for fun, but if you sell those pictures, that’s kinda cringe tbh.

    • Beldarofremulak@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      24
      ·
      25 days ago

      Everyone can write a prompt. Not everyone can write a prompt that gets around vulgarity filters and outputs an image of Jesus twerking. That’s where the real value is IMHO.

      • ravhall@discuss.online
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        25 days ago

        And if that person can manage to find a market that will purchase that Image, they deserve to sell it

        • Beacon@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          25 days ago

          I can’t imagine there’s a market for it. AI art isn’t copyrightable, and even if they just post a low res preview then that allows anyone to simply use an AI upscaler on it to get a satisfactory output

          • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            25 days ago

            Here’s what the US copyright office says about when AI art is or isn’t copyrightable:

            In the case of works containing AI-generated material, the Office will consider whether the AI contributions are the result of “mechanical reproduction” or instead of an author’s “own original mental conception, to which [the author] gave visible form.” 24 The answer will depend on the circumstances, particularly how the AI tool operates and how it was used to create the final work.25 This is necessarily a case-by-case inquiry.

            So if an image looks like AI and you decide to just take it, legally that could be a risky proposition if you don’t know the artist’s workflow and the situation doesn’t exactly match up with settled case law. Afaik most of the market is for custom images, so in practice most of the time it’s not going to be a situation of just putting in a prompt and handing over the result but rather a multi step process and a hybrid of different techniques, which could weigh more towards generated content or more towards traditional drawing or image manipulation. The reason to pay someone for that instead of just using AI yourself would be the same as the reason for paying for non-AI art; they have the skills to get better results than you easily can on your own. The reason an artist might use AI is that it improves quality and/or reduces the amount of work.

    • yboutros@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      25 days ago

      I sort of agree, but I think it depends on effort.

      Type one word in and try and sell the easiest generated image? Low value.

      But typing the right combo to create assets to create something larger than the model is capable of? That’s more valuable.

      Criticizing AI or artists that leverage AI is like criticizing an artist for using a printer instead of drawing by hand

      Or saying someone’s digital work is inferior because they used a tool to help make their image…

      On that note, when working on a large project, is an AI artist as pretentious as the artist in the comic because they got some help generating the project from an AI instead of another human? Or is someone’s work ethic less credible for Google searching instead of asking a person? Are works of art valuable because they’re entirely original and uninfluenced by anything else but the artist themself? Because with that metric no artists are valuable since nothing is entirely original anyways

    • GoodEye8@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      25 days ago

      I honestly think if an artist makes their own model based on only their own work and then use that model to create more of their work, then it’s completely fine if they want to sell it. I imagine if there’s future for AI art then that’s probably the best future, one where the AI creates most of the image and then the artist does some touching up where AI wasn’t good enough.

    • BabyVi@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      25 days ago

      If AI prompting is the only tool involved I agree. If it’s being used as just another tool in the artists toolkit it’s a different matter. For example I’ve seen people combining their photography with AI via masking and it’s about as respectable as collage art in my opinion.

    • TehBamski@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      25 days ago

      What’s more cringe though? Selling off the wall AI generated images or selling pictures of your butthole? (Asking for a friend.)

    • UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      25 days ago

      I don’t oppose AI pictures at all. However, considering that all generative image models have been trained on human generated data, it is only fair that these models and art created by them be under copyleft licenses.

      • AVincentInSpace@pawb.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        25 days ago

        RX_RECORD_TOO_LONG. This happens regardless of whether I try to download the image using Firefox or cURL and regardless of what internet connection I use. My instance is able to proxy them though, strangely.

        I suppose I could try writing my own little download utility using a different SSL library, but I don’t wanna do that right now.

        • Sounds like a misconfiguration (HTTPS on an HTTP port or some other non-HTTPS protocol).

          I’ve seen this before in only one instance, which is when archive.is started blocking Cloudflare’s DNS (because they use DNS to hack together a CDN and Cloudflare doesn’t send the optional data they need), but that would make it intentional. If catbox is sabotaging DNS providers the same way, maybe try another upstream DNS server.